Tompson (5 Jan 2011)
"Did the Start treaty start the Tribulation?"

I have not posted here in a while after the whole September anticipation of the Rapture that never occurred. Like many who have posted to this site I felt a sense of foolishness and let down that I believed so strongly that something would happen and not a thing did. So I have gone quiet watching the news but no longer getting excited about it. Thinking to myself since then Obama is not likely the Antichrist but I was still not fully ready to denounce that claim. However since December 22,2010 I can not get my mind off of one thing what Obama did do.
I know based on my title to this email the rest of the doves will immediately turn their attention to Daniel 9:27. As listed at the bottom of this email.  However for all of those who still think that Obama could be the Antichrist you have been looking for the treaty with Israel to prove your theory...but what you got instead was a treaty with Russia. A SEVEN year treaty with Russia. Now think about this, many thought something was going to happen on Passover of last year. It did three days later when the Start treaty was signed between the man many think is the Antichrist and Russia. Remember it is Russia who breaks the treaty in the first place and causes the Antichrist to go to war. So here we have a treaty with the man many wonder is the antichrist and Russia. Now again this was signed three days after Passover which was according to Google from March 30th to April 5th. Three days after again a symbol of resurrection, in this case of a treaty. Why did Obama go after seven years when the initial START treaty ratified by Reagan was 18yrs.  Now so far every time this treaty comes up on the world scene disaster follows it immediately. But I do not think everyone is connecting the dots. (If there are indeed dots to connect.) What happened right after this was signed on April 8th?
Just prior to this date massive earthquakes began hitting all over the globe
California/Baja Earthquake hit   4-8-2010
China hit by killer 7.8 earthquake   4-14-2010
Gulf Oil Spill  4-20-2010
Coincidence...maybe...maybe not?
Now the name of this treaty is START what is another word for START? Beginning, or how about Genesis. Isn't this interesting since for a time Obama tied himself to Biblical phrases and such that many thought he had a God complex because of it. Now here we have a seven year treaty that I would like to play with words on and put it this way   In the beginning was the START treaty (7 years each year representing a day like God's work in Genesis.) and the START treaty was good (in the eyes of man) and began the Tribulation.
The clue the Tribulation started was on December 22, 2010.   With the START treaty.   It's very name may be an incredible sign like the gun shot of a race.
Now we are looking for a peace treaty....Tell me what else is a Nuclear Reduction treaty then a peace treaty?
I know your going to tie the fact that the scripture states that in the middle of the seven years the Antichrist causes sacrifices and financial offerings to cease as more proof that the treaty is with Israel. What if that is not quite true. What if During the seven year treaty with Russia the Antichrist also stops tithes/offerings of Christians to churches and Jewish offerings to Synagogues? But the two are not actually connected to the treaty itself but more of a landmark event  during that seven year period pointing further to the Antichrist's identity?
The Bible also states in that same verse of Daniel "He Shall confirm the Covenant with many."
Question...what does the President of the United States do when he signs a bill that is ratified by the Senate?   HE CONFIRMS IT
That thought alone gives me chills.
What happened since
December 22,2010 freak weather storms hit California, East Coast.
December 29-31st out of season Tornadoes kill people in Arkansas
Dec 31st birds and fish dies by thousands in Ark....interesting  ARK...c'mon if you think the clock's time can tell you something words more so and how they sound. God's signs in real life are like the symbols of our dreams. Look at things symbolically and then things begin to make a little more sense. Fish is a symbol for Christians by the way. Birds are an animal of freedom. 2,000 fish died...unity, and witnessing comes to death. ( 2 means unity and death, and witnessing)  Five thousand birds died , Grace and freedom also died.  (5 means grace,freedom) the total 7,000. We all know what seven means.
January 1st...Earthquakes begin yet again in serious magnitude .
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? IF this is the treaty that started the tribulation then all hell will break loose this year and last year's freak weather will look like a Kindergarten play.
Oh one more thing, many doves were looking for a treaty and a sign around the time of Hanukkah that ended on December 19,2010. NOTHING HAPPENED
Yet again the Start treaty was ratified three days later on December 22,2010. Why does things with Obama always fall within just a few days of a major Jewish Holiday. Is it because Satan thinks he is above God's laws and times? But again this is just all coincidence right? :)
Now it is possible that if this is the treaty we are looking for it does not officially begin until Russia has totally ratified it to their government. If that is so there will be signs following.
Again these are just interesting things about the START treaty I am presenting for you to think about. I personally still do not know about Obama and how he fits into the grand picture but ,I am keeping watch on this one for sure. Thanks for your time.   Just to put it all together in a simpler form
Paraphrase my own
And he the President shall confirm the Bill into action approved by the Senate Majority known as  the START treaty for a period of seven years with Russia. In the middle of the seven year period of peace the President will also cause Christian and Jews to stop giving financial offerings to their local worship houses.
I know I am likely stretching this a bit....but then again we live in modern times reading biblical texts from thousands of years else would you  translate it?

Daniel 9:25-28 (King James Version)

 25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.



PS I think the temple he will make desolate is the White House by the detestable things he will do there and the things he will set up as idols in it. Look up the White House and its ties to Babylonian architecture  and such it was actually designed to be a temple and what does the White house have....Wings...where is the treaty signed in the West Wing of the White House where he signs into laws Abominations that make things desolate.


I believe the temple desolation that Jesus was referring to in Matthew occured with Titus and the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple at that time. Many Christians that were alive at the time were spared their lives because they believed that was the fulfillment of Jesus's words.