Patty Hayes (4 Jan 2011)
"Laurie Hane"

 
Hi Lauire,
 
In regarding the Virgins, you remember I pointed out in the Greek, the Lord had no knowledge of who the 5 foolish were, no relational knowledge and yet the passages pointed out prior to that is that the Believer cannot lose their salvation.  The true Christian is what....SEALED UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION. 
 
What you are saying is that this passage would teach that the born from above Christian could lose their salvation or not really have a real birth from above salvation.  That is in contradiction to much of Scripture.    However,  the whole of the dialogue in its entirety is Jesus is teaching the disciples regarding what would happen to the Temple and Israel in the course of Israel's history.  He starts talking in Matt 24 and concludes talking the last verse of Matt 25 answering the disciples' questions.  He does not start, stop and restart again.  He gives a full discourse to them in one setting.
 
The Church was not birthed yet nor the disciples aware of the Church being borned.  They were still thinking national Israel. 
 
We just cannot pull out of context to create another pretext.  I gave the Greek so that you can see that when the Lord told those 5 foolish virgins he never knew them, the Greek word he used is a "never established relationship."   It is clear then to me that this is not refering to a loss of something you had and now lost.  He says he never knew them.
 
The Book of Matthew is written to the Jewish population and uses much of the Jewish imagery.  What Jesus is speaking to, or addressing is what would take place during the Tribulation, not the rapture.  We have many other texts of scripture that do teach about the Rapture but this is not one of those. 
 
Thanks for your interest.
 
Patty Hayes