Laurie Hane (3 Jan 2011)
"Pattie Hayes re Harvey Troyer"
Pattie and Harvey,
I
enjoyed reading both of your submissions here at 5 doves. I had
to go back and forth to compare things to make sure I understood where
you both agreed and disagreed. It caused me to once again go
through those same chapters in Matthew and review the parables in case
I had missed something in previous studies. What I was
immediately aware of was I agreed with all the scriptures you mentioned
Pattie, those are the great promises to the church left by God through
the authors He chose when giving us the scriptures that we enjoy
today. That is why I am very cautious to give every account to
every word that is left. Pattie, I think you missed an important
word. That is Matt. 25:1 THEN...that's it, it ties what was
written previously to what is now being presented. It involved
the faithful and the wise servants vs the evil servant, both being
given rulership over the household while the Lord was gone. This
is servant, not bond servant so it was someone in the employ of the
Lord. This servant was in the position to receive payment for the
job done in reference to what was in view and that was the giving of
meat [food] in due season. The evil servant instead let the cares
of this world pull him into bad acts toward the family and when the
lord returns he takes HIS servant and separates him from the faithful
and wise. After this scenario we have the word THEN before we
enter into further information used to help us understand the
former. We now know that we are talking about the kingdom of
heaven and once again instead of wise and evil, the terms are wise and
foolish. Both are in possession of a goal, they all go forth to
meet the bridegroom. They are all in possession of lamps and in
verse 8 of chpt 25 you see that they are also in possession of oil,
only not enough to keep their lamps lit for the duration. As
Harvey showed, the oil is the presence of the Holy Spirit. These
virgins (set apart ones which is what the term virgin alludes to) all
belonged to the Kingdom of heaven (vs. l) all set forth to meet the
bridegroom (vs.l) all had oil with them (vs 8) and the foolish were
told to go BUY more oil. Since when are the unsaved told to BUY
there way into heaven? So Pattie if you are having a problem
combining the truths in these passages with the great promises left
christians by God in the N.T., maybe there is more to learn and
understand rather then disreguard. These passages show the
importance of a Godly walk in this life. Like Esau of the O.T. ,
he thought he would receive the right of the first born up until the
day his father bestowed it on Jacob. The promise was there, the
right was his, but because he at one point in his life placed too
little value on his inheritance he off handedly offered it to Jacob for
some food. That showed his overall respect for the the title and
office he was to one day assume and because of that cavalier attitude
that permeated his life and actions, he forfeited the right even though
he sought with tears to have his father over turn the blessing he had
given Jacob. Heb 23:17.
As much as I am
learning to grasp onto all the promises left for us in scripture I am
also reminded of the IF clauses also left to help us balance our
lives. Some are
Heb. 10:36 For ye have need of patience, that , after ye have done the will of God, ye MIGHT receive the promise.
Heb.
4:l Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of
entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
1
Peter 1 speaks of a living hope given us by the resurrection of the
dead through Christ, to an incorruptible inheritance, reserved for us
in heaven. Just like Esau's inheritance was reserved for
him. We are guarded by the power of God through Faith unto this
salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. vs. 9 shows what
the guarding was for "Receiving the end of your faith, even the
salvation of your souls." The salvation of the soul is the last
salvation needed by man. The salvation of the spirit comes when
the life giving breath of the spirit quickens the dead spirit within us
at the point of spiritual salvation. We now have the ability to
worship and commune with God because God is spirit and to worship him
you must do it in spirit and in truth. But the life that is left
for us to live here on this earth has an incentive too that can only be
accomplished by the continual change within us as we slowly surrender
the things of our old nature to God while he transforms us into the
image of his son. We can stop the spirits work in us, not valuing
the inheritance out ahead like Esau, or we can understand and value the
process that God is willing to put us through by bending and giving up
of our will to the Father as He does a work in us. The end of
this is the salvation of the soul. This is the goal for all
christians and some will pay more attention to it then others, hence
the wise and foolish virgins. If the process needed in a
christians life is not completed , I believe that God will continue to
work in a different way in heaven. After all, we see the 5
foolish virgins told to go buy, they must have done so and then they
end up at the door into the marriage supper of the lamb. We know
this happens in heaven so it is in keeping with the beginning of the
parable which states "The Kingdom of Heaven is like".
Something must transpire with the foolish virgins so that they could
show up, but it was done too late in regards to what was in view and
that was to being a part of the bride, the chosen of the chosen.
That is why Christ is able to say that he does not know them, because
they came trying to enter into a relationship that was reserved
for those who valued the inheritance, valued the process necessary to
cause the dying to self, and in return where given the salvation of the
soul along with the title of Bride of Christ. They were not known
in regards to what was in view, that is all. If I showed up at a
Smith reunion and wanted to enter in. they would say, have you
married a Smith, is Smith your mothers maiden name, are you any
relation to a Smith? I'd have to answer no and that would be
that, a Hane is not a Smith and I had not done anything to guarantee my
being a Smith through any other means. I guess I hadn't valued
the Smith reunion enough to do what was necessary to go. Same
deal with the Kingdom of Heaven parables. So with that
said, Happy New Year and may God give his blessing to both
of you and I as we continue to search and grow for His purpose in the
days that He has graciously given us. Laurie