Karen,
I don't know if you have seen these testimonies or not but these people have had
dreams and visions that describe exactly what you have suggested; that we may
not immediately go to heaven but may stay here for a while after we receive our
new bodies and help others who have not yet been changed and who must face the
tribulation. These stories have been posted before, but they bear repeating and
I love reading them again.
Barry
Amundsen
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"A Prophetic Dream of
Rapture"
Armin
A. Wolff
(February
15,1993)
Last
night I had an extremely exciting and vivid dream-vision concerning the return
of our LORD Jesus. I normally never remember anything I dream, but this was so
gripping and vivid, and I have been thinking about it all day today. I would
like to share it with you and hereby also have a written
record.
I
found myself in a meeting with a number of believers. The meeting hall looked
like some kind of a warehouse and there were fewer than 100 assembled. The talk
seemed to center on the increasing persecution they were experiencing. All of a
sudden Jesus appeared and most, but not all, were instantly transformed from
mortal beings into Immortal. Also, at the same instant, some other Holy Ones
appeared who had walked with God in ages past, both in New and Old Testament
times. All of the ones who had, in an instant of time, received their new bodies
were able to recognize and converse with the Holy Ones from times past. I heard
someone exclaim: "I thought You are coming in the clouds to take us away." The
reply was: "I am coming in the clouds and... My reward is with Me Behold, here
they are, My Holy Ones of all time, My faithful witnesses, those who loved not
their life, and thus received it. They are the clouds and my reward, My reward
for what I endured on the cross for all."
I
heard another question asked of the LORD, by one of the Transformed Persons,
whether He would now take them with Him out of the tribulation they were
experiencing. He replied: "No, you must remain here for
another 40 days and nights, just as I was on Earth for another 40 days after My
resurrection and minister with Me to those who were not ready. After the 40 days
and nights you will come with Me into the skies above
Jerusalem
and we will leave
from there to have a celebration, a banquet in My Father's house, a feast that
has been planned before the worlds were made."
The
ones in the assembly, who had remained in their mortal bodies, lamented and
cried to the Transformed Ones to help them, but were told: "It is now too late.
The Bridegroom has come for us and there is nothing we can do for you, in this
regard. However, if you will not love your own life, not bow to the will of the
sin-man and take that seal of his, you will join us after the celebration. You
will be sealed by your death and kept in the throne room for the
LORD."
In
what seemed a moment later, I was in another similar assembly in (maybe) another
country. There also, the instant transformation had taken place of many. I was
told that this same event had happened all over the Earth and all born again,
Spirit filled followers of Jesus had been thus transformed, at whatever spot
they happened to be in that instant, and were joined by many of God's Holy Ones,
from the dawn of creation up to the present time.
Just
then, some heavily armed police, or soldiers, burst into the meeting and
proceeded to beat, shoot, and arrest the believers. A little blonde Transformed
lady stood-up to one of the large men, and refused to move when told she was
under arrest. Five or six huge men tried to drag her away, but could not move
her any further than they could have moved an ancient redwood or oak tree. This
infuriated the police and they started to beat her, and to start shooting their
weapons. The bullets went
right through the Transformed Believers and made holes in the walls, or in some
cases, struck and killed some of the mortals standing behind them. The blows
seemed to go through also and have no effect whatsoever on the new resurrection
bodies. The remaining mortals were dragged off to prison, along with some
of the Transformed Ones who chose to go along. There was no sure way to tell at
first glance, who was mortal and who lived in a transcendent resurrection
body.
I
was then also in a prison, and saw how the Immortals were comforting the
anguished souls who were to be executed unless they denounced the name of Jesus.
The guards and all governmental authorities were furious that they could do
absolutely nothing to prevent the Glorified Believers from coming and going and
ministering anywhere on Earth, wherever Jesus told them to go. No wall could hem
them in, and no weapon, or human force, could oppose or harm them. One of the
Transformed Saints who had lived ages ago on Earth spoke: "Within forty days,
all who refuse to accept the seal of the evil one will be killed and kept safe
by the Father, personally, in the throne room. Those who give in, will suffer in
the Terrible Wrath beginning after the last saint is murdered. This Wrath is the
LORD's Last Effort to get rebellious mankind to repent."
At
this point, I awoke and as you can imagine, was quite agitated. In fact, my
heart rate was considerably above the normal resting level. The clock said
5:05am. Needless to say, I could not go back to sleep. Over time, I may forget
the details of this dream, or vision, but one thing I'll never forget is the
anguish, wailing, and heart-rending lamentations of those who had to remain
here. I do not know how many of these chose to be killed rather than take the
seal of the antichrist.
Scripture
does speak of a group coming out of the Great Tribulation, but whether some are
from those who were left behind, or not, was not made clear to me in this
vision.
[The
conclusion of Armin A. Wolff's dream and postscript remarks.]
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Rapture
Dream
Patricia
6
Sep 2002
I
thought you might be interested in/ edifiied by the following dream I
had:
There's
been a lot of speculation re: the possibility of the rapture taking
place
this month. I went to take a nap, and before napping prayed
about
*really* understanding the rapture and what was going to
happen.
I had a very long and vivid dream- I was at home with my
husband
and daughter, getting something from the kitchen. The was a
blinding
flash of light and a shaking/vibration. I started yelling excitedly
to
my husband, "what just happened, what was that!" We all looked at
each
other and knew we were changed- we were in physical form but
with
an incredible light in us that was visable. I jumped up in the air a
few
feet and stayed there. I told my daughter to try. We discovered we
weren't
bound by physical laws and then realized we could move by
thought.
We went to find other people this had happened to. We found
some
people like us celebrating and calling the changed people "the
enlightened
ones." I wanted to go see
the moon since we could move
by
thought. I went to the moon and was scuffing around in the dust/dirt
thinking
how cool it was making tracks on the surface. Then I
discovered
there was a city on the moon. It freaked me a little so I
returned
to where the celebration was.
I discovered that the world was
in
chaos. Society had almost totally broken down. Someone told me
"terrorists"
had just massacred a group of people outside the building.
We
discovered there were basically 3 groups of people: the changed
ones,
the people who were Christians in name only (they were
freaking),
and the rest of the people who had become like mad dogs
wanting
to try to kill the changed people and the "Christians." Those of
us
that were changed were translated various places to witness to the
"Christians"
and explain salvation. We had the power to know any
illnesses
a person had and instantly heal them. The Christians left
behind
were *very* sad because they knew they would be martyred for
their
faith if they received Christ. They knew the anti-christ would come
to
power and the mark would be instituted. It was a hard decision for
them.
The "mad dog" people were very frustrated and insanely angry
because
they could not catch us or kill us. These people formed loose
gangs
to hunt us down, but we would be translated somewhere else,
and
they couldn't hurt our physical body. After a while society settled
down
a little and things became less chaotic, but the changed people
would
continue to appear to people to witness to them. I had the sense
that
the anti-christ had come into power to restore order. The dream
was
so vivid and incredible. I woke up feeling blown away by how
incredible
this dream was, and thinking "wow, that makes perfect
sense."
The dream had a lot more detail, but I've tried to just give a
synopsis.
Please feel free to forward this email.
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Eva
Faye Marsee
Oct.20,2003
Dream
1980's
I
had this dream sometime probably in the early 80's. It is still very vivid
today. I dreamed my family was driving around in a rural area just enjoying the
day. We were driving by a small cemetery in a neighborhood when all at once I
saw an elderly man climb up out of a grave. I shouted to Dana my husband and
said," Look Dana the dead in Christ are rising. Pull over to this house and I
will call Mom and Dad and tell them what is happening because It probably won't
be on the news for a while". I was in this house talking to the people and they
said I could use their phone. I picked up the receiver and started to dial when
I heard Dad on the phone saying hello. I said,"What are you doing on the phone I
haven't dialed yet"?
Then
the Holy Spirit spoke to me and said, " Now you will have whatever your heart
desires, not what your thoughts are but what is your deep heart desire".
Then
I turned to the people there and told them "This thing that is happening is
really great, you guys need to get saved". They said to me "It's to late." And I
said "No it's not, it's never to late". Then they said "Yes it is, it's to
late." So I said "We can ask God for anything and He will do it now." So I set
up a chalkboard and a piece of chalk and I said, "Holy Spirit tell us. Is it to
late?" And all at once it was written on the chalkboard "Yes".
The
next thing I knew Dana and I were walking down a back ally and all this
screaming was going on. Terrible screams. We looked over and some people were
using a guillotine to cut off Christian's heads. We didn't feel sad because we
knew that it was suppose to be and we weren't afraid because we knew
that they couldn't touch us because we had our immortal bodies and no one could
harm us. We also knew that those people that weren't Christians hated us because
they could not harm us.
We
were starting to walk through this ally onto the main street and in my spirit I
could see someone waiting to attack us around the corner of this building. They
had an ax ready to swing holding it back over his head. I wasn't afraid. I was
just curious how the Holy Spirit was going to take care of it. When we stepped
in front of this man he was frozen and couldn't move and I could see that it was
making him very angry.
The
next thing I knew I was walking by myself down main street and I started missing
Dana. So I said, "Holy Spirit take me to be with Dana." The next thing I knew I
was floating in a standing position at a walking speed down the street. I said,
"Holy Spirit let's go as fast as lightning." Instantly I was zooming down the
road to a house where I could see Dana. Dana was in a glass house in a small
neighborhood. He was down on one knee reading the Bible. Then I was standing
next to him. Then I said, "Holy Spirit I would like for the kids to be here with
us". All at once I saw the children flying in the air next to each other coming
to us.
Then
all my family, (at that time, my children, my husband and I ) were walking down
a street late in the day in a neighborhood just enjoying the peace and I had
this great desire to be with Jesus. All at once I was being pulled by the Holy
Spirit into the sky. My joy was great. Then I realized that the Holy Spirit had
said that we could have our hearts deep desire. As I was floating to heaven I
looked back to my family and said that's it! That's it! The rapture will happen
when you get the deep desire to be with Jesus.
After
I awoke, the Holy Spirit told me we were going to be on Earth for 40 days after
the dead in Christ arose, but we would have our immortal bodies, like Jesus did
when He rose from the dead and walked the earth with His immortal body for 40
days.
In
the late fall of 2002 I came across the website http://www.pressie.org/dreams_visions.html
.
It
has a collection of prophesies and dreams that different people received through
the years. When I read that there were other people who had the same dream as I
did, I just about fell over. Their names are Armin A. Wolf and
Patricia.
In
September God anointed me with the anointing of fire and restitution. He said He
was getting His bride ready for the great resurrection.
Amen
come quickly Lord Jesus.
My
E-mail address is: evafmarsee@yahoo.com
Ronnie
Patterson
Here
are the Pastors own words about his son
September
2000
"Ronnie
was walking his dog
Sandy
and singing praise to the Lord on a warm
September 2000 day after school. Suddenly, he was in the spirit in the presence
of the Lord. Ronnie saw a huge field of beautiful flowers in heaven, each one
perfect and without flaw. Then he saw a big wall with a large gate made of solid
white pearl columns. On each side, outside the gate, was huge warrior-like angel
about twice the size of a normal man. Ronnie said it took very powerful beings
to open the enormous gate.
"Next,
Ronnie saw past the gate into the beautiful city on the other side. Every
building was made of some material that was as clear as pure water. In the
middle of the city, he saw two giant chairs or thrones in an indescribable
throne room. Ronnie could not see clearly the figures on the seats as they were
engulfed in a cloud-like spirit similar to a force field or a glowing mist of
energy.
"Ronnie
was absolutely certain by the power and the presence that these were the thrones
of Almighty God, the Father, and Jesus Christ, the Son, surrounded by an
unmistakable manifestation of the Holy Spirit. Ronnie was also amazed at a
smooth, peaceful, beautiful music that seemed to be all over heaven but was most
noticeable in the fields of flowers.
"After
seeing all of this, Ronnie for the first time during this experience, heard a
voice speaking directly to him saying, 'Son, look over here.' Ronnie then saw a
long series of horse stables as far as he could see to the right and to the left
made up of individual horse stalls. Each stall contained a magnificent white
horse with angels standing with the horses as caretakers. (One angel per about
20 horses). The Lord told Ronnie that after He removes His people from the
earth, Jesus will remain with them in heaven a short time and then lead them
back to the earth riding these white horses. He said Jesus will put an end to
all who oppose Him and will establish His kingdom in the earth.
"As
the vision concluded, the voice of God continued to speak to Ronnie. The Lord
told Ronnie not to listen to the devil any longer. He said that the devil had
been condemning Ronnie with lies trying to make him believe that Ronnie was
worthless, helpless, without value, and on his way to hell. God told Ronnie that
Ronnie is His child, 'a child of God,' and that He was well pleased with
him.
"Next
the Lord told Ronnie to stop grieving over being 18 years old and not being able
to drive a car as Ronnie had driven himself almost crazy with disappointment
over this. The Lord said to Ronnie, 'I AM COMING SO SOON FOR YOU AND MY PEOPLE
THAT THERE IS NOT TIME FOR YOU TO DRIVE ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY LEARNING' .
Ronnie
had been upset by a friend who believes Jesus has no father. The Lord said that
teaching was false. There is one God in three portions, Father, Son, and Holy
Spirit. He also told Ronnie that His fury was at a maximum over the way that His
people
Israel
are being
persecuted.
"The
last thing He spoke to Ronnie was a request. He told Ronnie to comfort his dad
and to tell him to continue the radio and television broadcasting. He said to
keep preaching the soon call of Jesus for His people to come up to heaven. He
also said that He was pleased with Brother Mike Yocum and all the help he was to
the ministry. Ronnie told the Lord that there was only one other thing bothering
him. He was heart-broken at the thought of going to heaven and leaving
Sandy
behind (
Sandy
is Ronnie's dog). The Lord told Ronnie
not to worry because she is coming with us. I love animals and people (not in
quotes, but presumably said by the Lord).
"Ronnie
wanted to distribute this to as many people as possible, especially his family
so that he can warn them to give their lives completely to Jesus Christ and
won't have to be left behind when the Lord calls His people
home."
Updated
Rev.
Patterson, Ronnie's dad, says " that Ronnie's experience with the Lord in
September 2000 was so real and so totally life-changing that Ronnie's zeal and
expectation of the rapture has not waned one bit and in fact grows every day. He
says that Ronnie is a totally different person. He is not interested in girls,
cars or anything else -- only Jesus and the soon rapture. For example, when Ron
takes him to a sporting event, all Ronnie does is to go and approach strangers,
telling them that Jesus is coming soon, and to be ready. Ronnie does not even
pay attention to who is winning and does not care. He approaches strangers
everywhere with the same message. He is consumed with the reality of what Jesus
showed him and said to him in September 2000". He told his dad, "If you had
experienced what I experienced, you would understand why I think and act the way
I do."
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The
Rapture is True and Time is Almost Now
John
MacHaffie
May
29, 2002
I
went down on my knees on Wednesday Evening May 29, 2002, asking God for some
revelation, a sign or whatever to help me about this Rapture belief - Is is true
or what? After my tearful prayers and asking Him for a sign, I fell into a
blissful sleep. My dream - maybe vision - I dunno as I am not worthy of a
vision, was spectacular. I vividly saw and felt myself raised vertically right
out of my body flying upright at about a 80 degree angle to the earth. As I went
up I looked around and saw the most beautiful 'bright' blue sky and flown above
the most beautiful sandy beaches, aqua blue waters with christine clear surf.
Look like the Exumas in the
Bahamas
. I was quite excited to say
the least. I was amazed at how warm and welcoming I felt.
I
then was headed up to some grey ceiling clouds which as I got closer --- I felt
a strong feeling. Not a voice, but just definitely a message (like telepathy)
--- "the Rapture Is True and time is almost Now". Got to within several feet of
the clouds and then I woke up!
My
dream or vision was quite vivid and immediately tried to recall the events as I
saw them.
I
immediately wanted to post this on the Internet to share but had my doubts.
Dreams and visions are for not for us 'logic lead' engineers and tough 'John
Wayne type' guys. Prove it - no I can't. Exposing myself to ridicule is not my
ideal of fun but I felt compelled to share this Real Happening.
I
am sending this to you Jim Bramlett and Mark as others will be able to
appreciate this message. Especially to those like myself who are wee bit
depressed with all these so called rapture dates that have passed.
Be
advised to all - - - that it is our wonderful precious Jehova's God Call per His
timing not ours. I for sure am just a pebble of the sand in this universe. My
existence and faith is a Blessed Gift which I thank Jehovah God every day.
We
are to know the season but not the exact time of His Call. Our need with current
events especially now is to be continuously on a Rapture Watch.
We
are just along for the ride, I pray.
And
what a ride it will be - I believe I saw a preview and it was awesome.
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Rapture
Dream
12/10/02
I
physical felt myself rising vertically out of the bed. I was taken out of the
room and into the stars. All around me were the nighttime stars but I felt no
discomfort, no cold or warmth. Just being pulled upward at a rapid pace. I could
not see earth or anything below, just stars. I didn't want to look back.
In
the meanwhile, I was shouting, "Thank You Jesus! This is the Rapture. It is
Real. It is happening" My eyes were tearing up. "Thank You God" What a total
rush!
I
really felt this was the real thing.
A
clear acrylic clipboard suspended in space with about 10 world currencies
digitally listed on them in front of me to the left. The red numbers next to
them were the valuations of each. The numbers were changing and getting smaller
and smaller. The further up I traveled through the stars the value of each
currency was approaching zero. Yea that sounds logical, there be no money, no
greed in heaven. Beautiful, can't wait.
I
felt like I was traveling for out 5 minutes of my time when I shouted "Is this
the Rapture, God"
The
mentally transmitted response which came back "Very Soon" And then I woke up.
The
Rapture
Many
Shall Be Taken Up in the Rapture
Jesus
- "My children, there are many good to be saved; there are many children of God
still in these areas about your country. However, I cannot promise you a life
without thorns upon your earth. Many good will suffer with the bad. There will
be a gradual removal from within your world of the good; many shall die in their
earthly bodies and many shall be taken up in the rapture."
(7-15-77)
The
Rapture
Our
Lady - "I give you great grace of heart, My children, to know that many shall be
taken from your earth before the great Chastisement. It will be of great mirth,
My child, to reveal to you that there will be much consternation and conflicting
thought when these beloved children disappear from the earth. Many of your news
medias shall state that they have been carried off by flying saucers. Oh no, My
children! They were carried off into a supernatural realm of the Eternal Father
to await the return of My Son upon earth."
(12-7-76)
Jesus
- "Man shall be working out in the field. One shall be taken. Man shall say,
'Where has he gone? He has disappeared without warning ' A woman shall work at
the spindle - two at the spindle. One shall be taken, and where has she gone?
The mystery unfolds. It is in the plan of the Eternal Father that many shall be
taken from among you. The mystery shall befound man.
"I
promise in those days that those who remain shall meet with Me to establish My
Kingdom of peace and joy upon your earth." (1-31-76)
Jesus
- "Sin is insanity, and one sinful man shall set the world aflame. A world on
fire and nations disappearing from the very face of the earth!
"Many
shall be removed in the rapture. My children, the Eternal Father has a plan for
each and every life that He has placed upon earth." (5-27-78)
Jesus
- "Now, My child and My children, you will firmly now go forward without any
hesitation. You must get the Message from Heaven out as fast as humanly
possible, for your time is growing short. Remember, without prayers and
atonement, the world will become devastated. The Third World War will leave no
earth upon the land. There will be no earth, there will be no human beings; but
a grouping would have been taken up into Heaven, My child and My children, to
await the terrible devastation that falls upon mankind."
"Yes,
My child, numerous earth years ago I told you that some will be removed before
the great cataclyst. All who are of well spirit need not give their lives to the
Father in fear, but all who are of good spirit will receive many graces to save
their families and themselves." (5-28-83)
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Neil
Lipken
November
2001
In
the middle of the night about 4:30 AM on Nov. 20th, 2001, my wife was downstairs
in our home leaving the kitchen when suddenly she heard a very clear voice say
to her, "It's just about time". She had just turned the light off in the kitchen
and was coming through the living room when it happened. She looked all around,
but no one was there (the experience was quite real to her), and immediately ran
upstairs and woke me to tell me what happened. The interesting thing is that she
is really not very interested in end time prophecy. She knows that the Lord is
coming back someday, but it just does not intrigue her very
much.
July
2002
Early
in the morning on July 22nd (this year) I had a very vivid dream. I was teaching
at a church
(as
I often am) when the pastor stopped me and told me that a woman was there at the
church, and that she was going to give us a "demonstration on how near the
Rapture now is". I yielded the pulpit to her immediately. She brought up a
sphere about 1 1/2 feet in diameter, and she called it a "biosphere". The bottom
half had dirt in it with miniature houses and trees, and the top half was
"atmosphere". The sphere itself looked like clear plastic. She then brought out
a long electrical wire and plugged one end into the wall socket. On the other
end were two copper tips (which were live), and she proceeded at once to place
the live copper tips into the atmosphere of the biosphere. The atmosphere
ignited instantly. She then told everyone in the church that the amount of time
now remaining till the Rapture is the same amount of time that it took for the
current to jump from the copper tips and ignite the atmosphere of the
biosphere.
I
then woke up.
Yours
in the Most High,
Neil
Lipken
e-mail:
fredthegroundhog@msn.com
Peg
A
Dream Sequence
Feast
Preparation
May
2002
Last
night (Monday) I was fascinated by a dream that Perry Stone was relating to
David Curillo on his program that his 86 yr. old grandmother, who
is in the hospital had. His grandfather had died about 5 years ago. In her dream
his grandfather said to her"Lucy,come I want to show you something".(She said it
was so real. She looked and as far as she could see..North, South, East and
West....were long tables with the whitest tablecloths on them)."We"ve been
working hard up here, preparing for the Marriage Feast of the Lamb" he
said.."Look..people are gonna start coming in'...(people that had died in Christ
were checking out the tables to see where they and their families are gonna
sit). Then he said.." See that middle table, that is reserved for our family".
(Some people were already sitting at some of the tables.)
Then
she woke up.
In
my dream in May of this year...I had just gotten off a school bus and found
myself standing on a very long line beside a brick building that looked like
some kind of a town hall. The day was very bright. I asked a kind looking lady
standing next to me why we were on line? She replied.."For food". As the line
began to move I saw up ahead that the line was turning at the corner. When I got
there ...an immense field was before me with the most beautiful carpeting of
silky green grass... in an intense color of green that I had never seen before.
In the field were long tables with the whitest tablecloths that seemed to glow.
There were too many tables to count. I glanced at one of the tables and saw my
mother, my brother and my grandmother who had passed on in 1968. They were all
so happy and so young! They appeared to be waiting for someone or something to
happen. In the distance at the end of this huge field was a truck loading hay. A
sign of the harvest!!!............ These two dreams may be coincidental but I
would prefer to think that the Lord wants us to know that everything is in
readiness for the Marriage Feast of the Lamb!!! The Harvest is about to happen.
God Bless You All