Eddie, all sin is the same in the eyes of God, sin is simply
disobedience to God. If a gay person refuses to get out of his gay
marriage and says that he is a Christian then he is not truly repentant,
therefore is not in his heart, a Christian. One example I always like
to use is King David, the guy was basically a male slut (please excuse
this language, but that's essentially what he was). He loved his women,
but he was always quick to repent, and I mean truly repent, he was very
sorry for disobeying God. Sooner or later he always did what was right
in God's eyes. Those who refuse to change their ways are not of a truly
repentant heart.And please read Leviticus, there are few things that God calls an
abomination and mankind lying with mankind and womankind lying with
womankind is one of them. We all fall short of the Law, that's why we
need Jesus as an advocate, the one who's always got our back, but it is
our choice to have him stand by our side and get us into the VIP
entrance. Life is all about choices, so it is up to each person to make
their choices, after all, each individual will deal with their own
consequences when the time comes. And being gay is a choice.Eddie Son (25 Jan 2008)
"Do gay Christians go to heaven?"Hi, Doves,
I hope you all have a happy new year. Although I don't post
often, I read your posts everyday.I just wanted to bring up this question that I think will help
realize the fallacy in the doctrine, 'salvation by faith or grace only'.
Here's the question; do you think gay Christians will go to
heaven?If someone genuinely believes Jesus as the Christ and the son of
God and that he was sent to die for our sins, and confesses Jesus as
Lord and savior, but still can't get free of his sin of homosexuality,
is he saved? Although, he tries very hard to shake off his sin but keep
falling back to the sin or he's not willing to break his gay marriage,
is he still saved by his faith in Jesus?
I often see alarm raised for apostacy in church citing 'this
church ordained a gay man' or 'that church endorsed gay marriage', but
if you say one is saved by faith and grace only, then aren't these gay
Christians saved, too?If you teach the Christians who couldn't turn away from sins
such as pornography or slandering, that they are still saved because of
their faith in Jesus regardless of their works, then why not accept the
married gay couple Christians who confess Jesus as savior and lord and
welcome them into the church?
On the other hand, if you say, gay Christians are not saved,
then it's the same thing again. Then, what about the Christians with
seemingly trivial sins, such as swearing or slandering? Is homosexuality
a sin enough to forfeit salvation but not slandering?If we accept Christians who practice sins (i.e, have not turned
away from practicing them, in other word, repent), such as tax fraud,
sexual immorality, lying, swearing or who has bad temper, and teach them
'you are saved regardless of your sins because you have accepted Jesus
as savior',then why not accept married gay couples and teach them 'you are
saved not because of your works or sins but by your faith in Jesus
alone. Your sin of homosexuality is washed away whether or not you turn
away from them'?
Eddie Sohn
esohn@rogers.com