Lester: as I mentioned when I read your ORIG. post that I may've misunderstood it ~ and indeed I did, once you explained better http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2008/lester128.htm
You see, in your orig. post I thought you were stating that there was NO Holy Spirit at all (sorry, but you'd be surprised how many ppl actually think that!) But you cleared things up here & now I understand.