Well, we discussed this last year and before that as well. Here are two posts, one written by me, one written by Mary Hansen, totally unknown to each other, that were posted the same day last March. Read them and see if these two witnesses, along with the third witness being the Word, do not confirm the truth of a matter.
 
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/mar2004/maryh316.htm
 
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/mar2004/elleng316-3.htm