John, Donna, & Doves,
John, I agree with your assessment of the RCC
and its fulfillment of scripture as the Whore of
Rev. that is riding the beast and I do believe
as you that one of the seventh will become the
eighth king, thus a pope will come back to life.
I wander if this will be by DNA manipulation? It
seems logical that a dead corpse could
be cloned with today's evil technology!
Mike....As we
discussed last week it appears that this beast
that rises from the bottomless pit will be
indwelled by both Apollyon and Satan. The
bible says that Satan can manifest himself
into an angel of light and or probably
other forms.....like maybe the image of a
dead pope.
I got to thinking about something while studying
this, and came to the conclusion that Satan, the
dragon, and Lucifer are all representative
of the False godhead. He is the opposite of
and a mirror image of everything holy.
Thus, the anti-christ or (anti-messiah), could
be represented by a pope, cloned, possibly,
back to life with fallen angel DNA of Satan.
Thus, he would be a modern day Nephilim and
could be considered to be satans biological (son
of perdition), yet satan would not necessarily
be him, just representative of him, or called
the beast by association, or he could still be
possessed by satan as you suggested. .
....If you
remember when John Paul II died they
went to great extremes to
preserve his body and blood so
your DNA angle may very well play into the
deception that will come.
The False Prophet would have to be an
opposite reflection of Jerusalem, the true
church, and the Holy Spirit. Thus, the RCC,
centered in Rome, would have an evil spirit
and be blasphemous to Almighty God and his
true identity! The false prophet has no power
without the dragons presence. These two could be
cast ALIVE into the lake of fire and satan would
be able to escape until he is bound and cast
into the "bottomless pit." John, I noticed
in your post that you stated the 2 beasts
were destroyed, not so. They are tormented for
ever and ever in the lake of fire. ....You are absolutely
correct, but I guess to me spending eternity
in a lake of fire is being destroyed. Satan
wants to be LIKE GOD! So, he imitates the
holy trinity, with him at the top as god,
his son (of perdition) would be the ANTI-christ
or (anti-messiah) infused with his own DNA, and
the representative of his evil spirit would
emanate from the false prophet, his evil church,
and city on 7 hills. Yes.....the
unholy evil demonic trinity
My biggest problem has been with BHO, as I have
read everything on the 5 doves and found the
math to be conclusive as to him being the
anti-christ. ....I put
God's words in Rev.13 and 17 ahead of any math
that man might provide concerning this.
I have also had trouble with the
timing, as far as with the temple problem! I now
feel that the temple is going to have to be
completed, in order to fulfill
prophecy......although I do not think that it is
in the Jews best interest to do it
because Jesus already FINISHED the
sacrificial system at the cross! I believe during the first 42
months of the tribulation when the antichrist
is schmoozing the world while consolidating
his power he will allow the Jews to restore
their temple.Great
pain is going to be brought upon them for this
but Jesus says he will take them back
when they turn unto him and cry out, as a
prodigal son returning home!YES And then
Armageddon and his wrath will be totally
unleashed on the earth and the devil and
demons that have caused this entire perversion
of his original creation and purpose. But,
back to "0".....I think he is the Muslim mahdi
! Everything he has done and is doing in the
world is to benefit Islam! He is
systematically eliminating all of the despots
that have been ruling in the Muslim countries
and to much adoration to himself by all
muslims. Could it be that satan will use
the muslims and their mahdi, to first
attack the Jews and then after they repent to
Jesus and he protects them that he will turn
and go after the Christians and begin
murdering them! Could the 10 kings be muslim,
a cooperation between the vatican and muslims
in order to illiminate the Jews and
Christians?
I
believe that a union will be formed between
Islam and the Roman Catholic Church. The glue
that will stick them together will be the
false prophet who will come from Islam as
their Mahdi or twelfth Imam and the false Mary
of the RCC that Islam has great reverence for.
Obama could indeed be the false prophet as you
suggest. As you stated he has done and
continues to do many things that have
benefited the Muslim world. He is definitely a
Trojan Horse for Islam. Everyone knows Obama
has no past, most of his life remains a
complete mystery. How could the president of
the United States of America normally the most
vetted man on the planet be a ghost figure
with a foggy forged past? There are two
answers to that from my point of view. One, he
is protected by the ruler of this planet
Satan..."we do not wrestle against flesh and
blood, but against principalities, against
powers, against the rulers of the darkness of
this age, against spiritual hosts of
wickedness in the heavenly places." And two,
he will at some point claim to be the Islamic
savior, the Mahdi, their lost
prophet that was lost down a well in the
ninth century. He'll say that is why his
past had to be cloaked in such
mystery.
As per the
ten kings, I believe that they will be
ten Jesuit leaders from that
segment of the RCC headed by the "black
pope"(Jesuits dress in black). They
will be given kingdoms by the risen
antichrist the "white pope" and split the
world into ten areas for them to control. At
some point as per scripture the false prophet
will come on scene and uproot three of these
kingdoms for himself, meaning he will take
control of them. He will speak pompous words
against the Most High, he shall persecute the
saints of the Most High and intend to change
the times and law and the saints will be given
into his hand for three and a half years. He
will be the main enforcer for the antichrist
butchering millions of people who will not
worship the beast (the antichrist) take the
mark of this beast or worship the talking
statue of the beast.
If this is
indeed Obama he will take over three of these
world wide segments for his control probably
North America, South America and some other
segment. He will display great power as does
the antichrist but only if he is in the
presence of the antichrist who is indwelled by
Satan where the real power comes from.
I have just
brushed the surface of this scenario, I intent
to write a post on the false prophet and go
into extensive scriptural detail of what
I see happening during the seven years
concerning both of these beasts and the roles
they play and their identities.
Revelations
17: 16......And the ten horns which thou
sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the
whore, and shall make her desolate and naked,
and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with
fire.
17.........For God hath put it in their hearts
to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give
their kingdom unto the beast, until the words
of God shall be fulfilled.
Sounds like the muslims are going to give
their kingdom to the beast in an alliance
with the whore to kill Jews and
Christians. But then the beast is going to
turn on the whore and wipe her out. Rome will
be destroyed and Babylon will have fallen. God is definitely going to
cause these ten kings to become
traitorous and turn on the RCC at some point
destroying Rome the western
headquarters of the antichrist. At that
point I believe you will see the antichrist
move his headquarters to the city
of Babylon in Iraq which will become
his eastern headquarters.
A lot of possibilities, it has got to be
getting awfully close, and everything that is
going on is totally weird in the entire world.
Let me know what you think as I am still not
100% sure, but I am trying hard to understand
it. I think Jonathan Kleck is definitely being
lead by the Holy Spirit and I agree with him
that this is all about DNA and the corruption
thereof. The Nephalim were never completely
wiped out as God commanded after the flood
when they reappeared and it makes a lot of
sense to me why I have this battle going on
continually in my mind....right & wrong!
Our flesh is corrupted and that is why we have
to die and be reborn incorrupt. It all makes
sense,...... the info is really speeding
up and it is so far removed from everyday
reality that it is hard to talk to anyone
about it because it does
sound crazy, especially to those not saved or
misguided!
Praise Jesus and may God bless you all,
Michael P.
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Hey John,
I forgot to respond to your response
about the angel that opens the bottomless
pit. I am quite sure that this angel is
satan because it says:
rev. 9:1......And the fifth angel sounded,
and I saw a star fall
from heaven unto the earth: and to
him was given the key to the bottomless pit.
The bible uses
the word "star" in other places in the
bible to refer to angels. The angel
we speak of could be one of
God's good guys or as you perceive
Satan....time will tell.
Notice in Luke chap 10:18.....And he
said unto them, I beheld Satan as
lightning fall from heaven.
That was Jesus talking in Luke. A fall
indicates a moral lapse, to descend from a
higher to a lower position.
verse 2......And he opened the bottomless
pit;................................
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If you go to Rev. 20: 1...........And I saw
an angel come down from
heaven, having the key of the
bottomless pit and a great chain in his
hand.
This time the angel comes down instead of
falling down from heaven.
What do ya think?
Michael P.