GM (18 Feb 2012)
"Jesus reveals Himself"

Jesus reveals Himself                                                                          2/7/2012


The imminence of Revelation from the 1st century

The seven churches in the menorah of Revelation

Reconciling Daniel to Revelation

Knowing the end from scripture


A little perspective; this writing will not reflect some traditional teaching, but is biblical.  Minimal background is provided; the range of items is too far reaching.  The value is in the Holy Spirit if you find it so…


Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

Rev 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Rev 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

Revelation is not a sealed book; in part because the time was and is at hand.  The events foretold were already beginning to happen.  Those who watch all believe we have seen the “birth pangs” of the end times.  Yet none of those events have, individually, been global and at the same time.  [One possible exception is Fukushima radiation.  Since that earthquake volcanic mountains have become active and men have been expanding underground bunkers, hmm.]  The same can be true of the events of the first five or six seals.  None had to be global.  There is a historical record which can overlay the progression of time and the events of Revelation.  The time was at hand, so Revelation should mark events from that time.  For example: Rev 2:10 (above) is written to the church of Smyrna.  Diocletian of Rome started severe persecution of Christians for 10 years (303 to 313), the 10 days of Smyrna.



In Revelation 5 John weeps because no one is worthy to open the scroll.  Therefore, at this point in the vision Jesus has not yet given His life on the cross.  This begins the time line of Revelation in John’s vision.  If the events of Rev. have played out over nearly 2000yrs, then we are most likely now at the time of/among the opening of the seals. Consider that most agree that the 7 churches represent the entire time of the church age.   Paul indicated the spirit of antichrist was already among them.  The presence of the spirit of antichrist should equal tribulation.  This is not a new concept of Revelation.


Rev 6:16-17 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? 

This marks the beginning of His wrath; coming after the 6th seal is opened.  Chapter 7 is the transition between the 6th and 7th seal.  This is where John sees the vast host from every nation appear with palm branches before the throne of God.


Approaching the 7th seal in Ch 8 is when there is silence in heaven for “about half an hour”.  Silence in heaven; perhaps over the earthly heaven, the sky?  Before the 7th seal is opened four angels are positioned at the four corners of the earth.  They hold back all wind…silence in heaven/sky…for one half hour.  The Greek word used (G3772) is most directly “sky”.


If we let Jesus interpret Himself; we see Jesus say at His first recorded miracle at the Cana wedding, “Woman, my hour has not yet come.”  He is referring to His public ministry.  Religious bodies are identified with feminine labels like bride, virgin and woman. 


Jesus will fulfill His “hour” as Daniel’s 70th week.  He is Messiah, the anointed one.  However, He ministered for 3 or more years on His first coming.  That is one half “hour” or “week.”  In our present context we have one half “week”, or “one half hour” to finish Daniel’s 70th week.  Revelation, as the “revelation of Jesus Christ”, describes His return also writing of 3 ½ years, or 1260 days, or 42 months.  Jesus came in love and grace the first time.  The second time He comes in judgment.


Why two parts?  Jesus’ reign has two components.  Priesthood… and…Kingship

 Zechariah tells us the two witnesses (the two sons of oil) will be Joshua (The high priest) and Zerubbabel (the prince of Judah), or their types.


What about the Cana wedding?  Cana means “place of reeds”, very close to “Red Sea” in Exodus, which is “sea of rushes”.  On the “third day” (John 2:1), is only “days” before Passover.  Six pots are filled with water by the servants.  The six stone pots represent the six gentile churches.  They are filled with water (Holy Spirit).  Jesus transforms them to wine, a fruit of the harvest, and the blood of the Lamb.  Jesus commands the servants to draw out some wine and take it to the Master of the wedding.  This is the rapture.


Why only six gentile churches?  The seven lampstands in Revelation are a seven branch menorah.  The church of Thyatira was formed around a core of practicing Jews and is at the center of the menorah.  So Thyatira represents Jesus’ Jewish roots.  Jesus is connected directly to the center “lampstand” as the master lamp.  Jesus is described twice in Revelation as the lamp with hair and face as white as wool, eyes of fire (flame), long linen “wick”, and feet of fine brass, the bottom of the lamp.  He is the master lamp from which the others are lighted.  So, it is interesting that the minimum time a lamp of the menorah is to be lit is “one half hour.”

John 1:4-5

4  In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5  And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.


The group of six churches and pots are connected by branches to the center lampstand.  The churches are connected to Jesus through the Jewish based church of Thyatira. 


Thyatira church

This church represents Israel and the Jewish church.  In the letter to the church of Thyatira Jesus says idolatry and the teaching of Jezebel lead this church into pagan ritual and sexual immorality.  This is whoredom by which God describes wayward Judaism repeatedly throughout scripture.  Jezebel was the wife of King Ahab of Israel, who desired to kill Elijah.  His retreat directly parallels the exodus.

Then He says in Rev 2:22, “Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.”

So the church of Thyatira is directly linked here to the “great tribulation” which is the last 3 ½ years, the last “half hour”, and the purifying of the remnant at the end. 



Menorah symmetrical

The symbols of ancient Christianity and Judaism are all composed of 2 elements and are symmetrical.  The fish is two sweeps overlaid.  The Star of David is two triangles overlaid.  The cross has two elements overlaid and is symmetrical through the vertical center.  The menorah follows this pattern in a less obvious way.  With the center lampstand as a dividing line the three branches in each side could be folded over and exactly overlap each other.  Each lamp can be numbered 1 to 7.  When folded over the 1 and 7 meet, the 2 and 6 and the 3 and 5 each time adding to 8 the number representing Jesus.  Also, since He comes twice to the Jews, represented by Thyatira, that can be doubled also totaling 8.  Folding and reading from right to left as in Hebrew, the pattern of labels would be “4888”.  Strong’s H4888 is “consecrated portion, anointing oil”.  In Ezekiel two trees supply oil to the menorah.  Are these two trees the OT and NT, or the two comings of Jesus?  They definitely represent priesthood and kingship.  They are identified as the two witnesses.  Finally, J.R. Church and others have commented on the “menorah pattern” of psalms 111 to 117.  The center psalm 114 is conspicuous for the lack of a “Hallelujah!” verse.  111-113 have such a verse in the beginning of the psalm, and 115-117 have the “Hallelujah!” verse at the end.  While this does point to the “center” psalm, the same could have been achieved by “Hallelujah!” at the beginning of all seven psalms except 114.  So why does the pattern lack symmetry?  If overlaid by the suggested “folding” the combination of the 1st and 7th and so on would give a “Hallelujah!” at the beginning and the end of the combined psalms.  More fitting, don’t you think!  I suspect there is more to this; your turn…


Seals and churches:  If the six gentile churches, aligning with the first six seals, are removed, then how notable that sudden destruction of an earthquake happens after the opening of the 6th seal.  Then the 7th seal, connecting to the Jewish church Thyatira, is associated to the sealing of the 144,000 of the 12 tribes of Israel.  Further, the 7th seal is linked in Ch 8:1 to the “half hour” of silence and the release of God’s wrath.


The third day

This pattern of six and one is from creation in Genesis.  Six days of work, then a day of rest.  Here we have six churches transformed and one to be refined through judgment.  In the time of the end God “rests” from withholding judgment, while those raptured have rest from tribulation.  The Cana wedding occurred on the “third day” (John 2:1).  So, the group of six churches, as pots, is linked to the third day.  In creation on the third day the waters (Spirit-filled people) were gathered into one place, the earth became dry (Noah’s ark exit and exodus), and brought forth grain, herbs and fruit.

So, the fourth day may represent what happens after the 6th seal is opened.  On the fourth day in Genesis the Sun, Moon and stars appear in the heavens.  After the opening of the sixth seal in Revelation the Sun and Moon become dark and the “stars” fall from heaven.  Also, the fig tree (Israel) drops its “late fruit” and is shaken by a mighty wind.  The Cana wedding links these together through the pots on the “third day”, and the Cana wedding immediately precedes Jesus public ministry on earth and the first “half hour”.



Yom Kippur, Sukkot, and Hanukkah

Yom Kippur is the time of the greatest Jewish humility toward God.  This is a time of sadness and reconciling their sins and weakness with the Father.  Following is Sukkot, the opposite of sadness it is a time of great joy and celebration; a celebration of their union with God.  This festival looks forward to the millennial kingdom of Messiah.  At Sukkot, the feast of booths, the Jews are instructed to construct a temporary room like a Jewish wedding chuppah.  The roof is loosely placed slats so that they may observe the heavens overnight.  In Exodus the Glory Clouds lead and protect the Hebrews through the desert.  They are seen as a wedding canopy.  A chuppah on the feast of booths remembers the clouds.  A booth is made from branches. 


Hanukkah connection to the end times

Hanukkah is seen as a second Sukkot, or feast of booths.  In the NT it is called the “Feast of Dedication”.  Jesus is known to have taught in the temple at this time.  The fierce ruler in the end times is called the “Assyrian”.  The Hanukkah festival commemorates the re-dedication of the temple after another Assyrian king performed the first “abomination of desolation”.  This festival was delayed in the time of Maccabees due to the Jewish revolt.  They were still hiding and fighting in the month of Tishrei.  In Kislev they were victorious and able to proceed.  This prophetically outlines the end times.  Under persecution and eventually fleeing to caves, the faithful remnant will dwell in caves (Petra?) until the time of trouble is over in the month of Kislev.


Jesus said, “I come in the clouds.”

At the time of Jesus birth there were still more Jews in Babylon than in Israel.  A thorough examination of the word Maji leads to a root that indicates they were Babylonian Jews of the priestly class (see  Following the wisdom handed down from the time of Daniel they observed a sign in the heavens which led them to the birth of their king and Messiah near Jerusalem.  They must have been astonished when they realized that the locals were unaware of the glorious event.  They saw a sign in the heavens. 


Mat 24:30  And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 

The contents of Mathew 24 and 25 are for the Jews and Israel, not the faithful church.  Messiah, they watch for, and Messiah they will get at this time.  Near the end of Ch 23 Jesus declares that the Jews have cursed themselves.  Mat 23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.  He continues to say they will suffer the just effects of their crimes against the prophets and the righteous.  In the last verse of Mathew 23, vs 39, He says, “For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”  This is His second coming.  This will happen after they see the sign of the coming of the Son of Man in the heavens during Sukkot.  Jesus says before the seventh bowl in Revelation 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.  Mathew 24 is reflected here and near the end of the judgments.  There will be great joy for the godly when they know relief from the distress of His wrath is soon to come.  This would not have been a secret for the first century apostles who understood the seasons indicated by the words He used.


Consider verses 37 and 38, “37  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!  38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

He seems to be alluding to another “gathering”, the rapture of the saints.  He was willing but they would not flock to Him.  Instead their “house” and Jerusalem are left desolate.  This is the same condition of Jerusalem as indicated in Daniel Ch 9.


Daniel and Revelation in the words of Jesus

 Messiah, the anointed one, is Jesus.  Daniel outlines Messiah as Prince, the 70th week and a time of trouble.  When I considered Chapters 11 & 12 spoke directly of the end time I wondered why they are not referenced as support for the frequent “seven year treaty” discussions on timing.  The answer is simple upon reading.  No seven year period is mentioned.  Beginning in Ch 11 v 36 the time of the end is foretold.  This is the time of the “willful king” who will disregard all previous gods and exalt himself.  In Ch 12, the final chapter of Daniel, Michael tells him to “seal up” these words till the time of the end.  The man in linen, Messiah Jesus, is referenced.  Scripture is succinct…


7  And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

8  And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

9  And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

10  Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11  And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12  Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

13  But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days. 


The following notes for the verses:

7        The man clothed in linen, Messiah Jesus, says directly that the time of the boastful king will be three and one half years.  The word for “half” also infers “to cut in half.”(Dan Ch 9)  Why would the “one who lives forever…” want to “scatter the power of the holy people”?  They are His after all, and holy.  Vs 7 can read, “…when He has finished the overspreading guidance of…”  The power of the holy people is the Holy Spirit.  None is Holy but God, therefore these are those covered in the blood of the Lamb, in Christ Jesus, not the Jewish people of the covenant.  A literal translation of holy people is “sacred or saintly congregation”.  Daniel need not understand who the sacred people were, only that the 2nd half of the 70th week, 1290 days, would start when the time of the saintly people was finished.

8        Daniel did not understand, so this is explained another way in verses 10-11.

10    Many will be continually tried and purified in the ensuing time period, the saints.  This is the church age.  This also indicates tribulation through the church age.

11     Read as if the first word is “From”.  The taking away is at the same time as the AOD is set up.  The word translated “daily” is more literally “continual covering”. A sacrifice which is always available, not periodic.  This is the covering by the Holy Spirit.  When the covering power of the Holy Spirit is removed with the church and the Abomination of desolation is set up at nearly the same time 1290 days will remain and define the 3 ½ years, plus 30 days.  The removal of the “continual covering” includes the rapture.

12    The blessed are those that are resurrected whose names are written in the Book of Life.  In Revelation 20:4-5 we read that those martyred in the time of wrath for Jesus’ testimony will be resurrected and that, “this is the first resurrection”.   Daniel will wait for this time because He did not become a believer in the church age; he was under the law.

13    Daniel will die and stand up in his grave at the end of these 1335 days.


Once again, Jesus references 1290 days or 3 ½ years as a time of (Jacob’s) trouble under the boastful king and the AOD.  Since the AOD is directly linked to the pouring out of His wrath, these are the same period of time.  So in Daniel, 3 ½ years is repeatedly mentioned as an end time length, as stated by the pre-incarnate Jesus.  The only 7 year period on God’s clock is Daniel’s 70th week, which is fulfilled in two parts by Jesus Christ.  Half of 7 years is also “half an hour”.  Finally, He will pour out judgment over the second half of the 70th week.  After 1335 days the wrath and the first resurrection are complete.  He will prepare the Millennial Kingdom.


The beginning and the end

Rev 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, what thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Revelation is a book of symbolism, almost like a parable.  At the beginning of John’s vision Jesus is revealed amongst, within the menorah.  Will the end of all things come with a menorah?  The menorah is central to Hanukkah.  Jesus is central to the menorah.

Hanukkah was recorded in the Bible as the “Feast of Dedication” of the temple.  However, it also follows the same pattern of 8 days as Sukkot, Feast of Booths.  From their “booths” they are to watch through the intentional gaps in the roof for the works of God; perhaps His coming.  They will see the sign of the Son of Man coming in the heavens.”  Mathew 24 and 25 is to the Jews and very explicit that His coming will be like the time of Noah.  Noah was told to get into the ark on Cheshvan 10.  I encourage a study of Sukkot and Hanukkah.  From

Sukkot: Names, Themes, and Idioms

  1. The Season of Our Joy
  2. The Festival of Ingathering
  3. The Feast of the Nations
  4. The Festival of Dedication
  5. The Festival of Lights

Notice the overlap of themes between Sukkot and Hanukkah.  Know the beginning from the end.