Michael Colunga (12 Feb 2011)
"RE:  Michelle Simpson--"New letter for The Five Doves Latter-Day Letters""

Hello, John and Doves,
Michelle, a possible clue to the meaning of the fifth seal is the fact that they ask, "...how long...":
    "They called loudly to the Lord and said, "O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long will it be before you judge the people who belong to this world for what they have done to us? When will you avenge our blood against these people?"  Revelation 6:10
Clearly, the end of Daniel's 70th Week is laid out for all to see as soon as we know when the
beginning is.  Conclusion:  the multitude spoken of here must not be referring to the end of
Daniel's 70th Week, by anyone's calculation.
The fifth seal must be before the Rapture, because
    " '...of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.' "
                                                                                                                       Matthew 24:36
From this reasoning, the Fourth Horse of the Apocalypse, having ridden forth from the opening of
the fourth seal, must be generating this multitude from the many Christians now being martyred.
In HaShem,
Mike C.
Michelle Simpson (11 Feb 2011)
"New letter for The Five Doves Latter-Day Letters"


    I have been a lurker to five doves for nearly a year and would now like to begin joining in the conversation. I am a spirit-filled Christian wholehearted in my desire and watch for Jesus to come imminently in the rapture. Please publish the following letter in your "The Latter-Day Letters" segment.

    Thank you and may the Lord continue to bless you, and all Doves, as you watch for Him to come.


    Welcome to the Doves, Michelle!


    Hello Five Doves,

    Re: To Jennie and John B/Pale Horse, Rapture, Sixth Seal

    I'm strongly leaning toward your Rapture after the sixth seal view. For some time now I've continued to trip over the Rapture occurring at Rev. 4:1 since there was no actual mention of it happening there. I only recently resolved/received peace in my spirit that the Rapture will actually occur at a point prior to the seventh seal being opened.

    The only thing about this time sequence that continues to not make sense to me involves the fifth seal. It seems to be misplaced in my logic.  Who are the slain in Rev. 6:9?  I always believed they were those martyred in the future holocaust of mass beheadings that should take place once the Antichrist is unmasked and fully running things. But if this is true then why are they being seen under the altar in heaven before any of the full blown tribulation events (trumpet & vials), which take place after the seventh seal, even begin to happen?  In other words if the BRIDE, who is not appointed to wrath, has not yet been taken up at the fifth seal point,  then this slain group under the altar at the fifth seal has to be other than the mass beheaded ones because the mass beheaded ones do come out of the great day of his wrath. So again, who are these slain ones? Why is John seeing them in heaven at this point?  Could this be a group of Christians killed in large numbers in an event or events that happen prior to the Rapture as a result of the release of the pale horse going out? .... Or are they simply the many Christians who have been persecuted and martyred around the world and over centuries solely for being Christians in anti-Christian, hostile environments (eg. .. Stephen; or the many underground Church converts of eastern nations, etc.)?  I'm trying to see how the fifth seal scenario being placed where it is makes sense?