Jim Goodrick (1 Feb 2011)
"For Susan W's friend : why we need Salvation"

Hi Susan,

Your correspondent friend thinks the way I used to think before I got born again. My problem was .. I was a two-step thinker.

Quoting your correspondant :
"Hence my statement: what am I being saved for? If for my sins, where do they come from? If from my human nature, who gave me that nature?
If God, then why would He go through the process of making something that He thinks I need saving from?
Would God create what He abhors? And then condemn it for its abhorrent nature?

If the human nature springs from Satan, who created Satan? If God, did God know Satan was evil? If yes, then why didn’t God defend us against Satan by giving us a natural resistance against Satan in our human nature? Are you saying God left us at the mercies of Satan and then sent his son to die so that we could believe in the son that died and gain freedom from Satan?

But how and why? If God is all powerful and all seeing, surely a beast like satan would not be a problem?



Today I am a three-step thinker and understand my sin nature better.

Let's start with Satan.

Satan was the most perfected being God ever created. He was far more intelligent than any other created angel, Ezekiel 28 : 12-19 ...
" thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom; " ( v. 12 )
" thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, until iniquity was found in thee." ( v. 15 )

Two- step thinking :
1. Satan was created perfect.
2. Therefore he is a perfect being, harmless.

Three-step thinking :
1. Although Satan was created perfect, he always had free-will.
2. At some point in his history he chose to serve himself ( pride "iniquity" ) rather than acknowledge God as His supreme Creator.
3. Satan lost forever his position ( "O Lucifer how thou art fallen."... Isaiah 14: 12-16 )
and he seeks to bring as many humans into hell with him ( 1 Peter 5: 8 ) by causing them to sin through various temptations and trials.

Now we will look at our own human condition:

Two-step thinking :
1. God created Adam and Eve " and it was good" ( Genesis 1:31 )
2. Since God created good beings in the beginning, then all of us are inherently good. ( assumption )

Three-step thinking.
1. Although Adam and Eve ( the progenitors of the whole human race) were created "good"
2. They too had free-will and chose to disobey God, ( Gen. 3 ) proving that we can lose our relationship with God.
3. As inheritors of their human nature, we also have free will, and can choose to disobey God, and thus lose our relationship with Him, even though He created us "good" from the beginning.

Now to answer the question, " Where do my sins come from "... they come from SELF-will.
Satan chose self -will, Adam and Eve chose self-will, and all of us choose self, to our hurt. 
" All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; ( the abuse of free-will )
"and the LORD hath laid on Him ( Jesus ) the iniquity of us all." Isaiah 53: 6

We are inherently prone to wander ( sin ) because ever since the First Sin in Eden, we gave Satan the insight  into our wayward hearts. We gave him the key, as it were.
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it ? Jeremiah 17:9

Therfore we must conclude that since our SELF-nature is prone to evil or wrongful motives ( self-justification ),
we are in need of Someone greater than ourselves to help us resist our selfish nature, and to resist Satan who exploits our weakness ... our vulnerability to succumb to temptations. 'fiery darts ". Ephesians 6:16.
We supply the tinder; Satan supplies the fire.
We also need Someone to atone for our sins, since God is holy and cannot accomodate sin.

As in any court case, the judicial system of Heaven needed proof that Satan should be condemned for all eternity to the pits of hell.
That happened when Satan and his cohorts became too greedy for soul-destruction and had TPTB crucify Jesus who was found to have no sin in Him, though He was fully man and fully God.
The demons manipulated events to bring about the death of Jesus, without justification or cause.
"The wages of sin is death " ( Romans 6:23 )  but since Jesus had no sin, He should not have died in the maliscious demonic events surrounding His death.

It was at Calvary that God made an open display of Satan's ignorance ( Colossians 2:15 ).
"And having spoiled principalities and powers ( demons ) , He ( Jesus ) made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it."

And 1 Corinthians 2:8 tells us :
" Which none of the princes of this world knew :
For had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory."
For now "the prince of this world is judged." ( John 16: 11 ).

By that judgement, Jesus redeemed ( bought back ) for us the "key" to God's heart, when we trust in His perfect atonement for our sins. We now have Jesus' Blood shed on the cross to cover over our repented sins. Our repentence is sincere if we have a broken heart and a contrite spirit ( Psalm 51: 17 ). Our sins are then forgiven and we restore our relationship with God, becoming justified in Him and inheriting His kingdom, as long as we remain in a close obedient relationship with Him ( "abide in me" John 15 )

In conclusion, God created all things good in the beginning, including Satan and humans.
Both Satan and humans took the beautiful gift of free will and abused it to serve self rather than God.
Our nature has been willfully corrupted.

God provided a way for us to return to a full relationship with Him by trusting in the shed blood of Jesus Christ.
He alone has the deed to our Redemption ( Rev. 5: 4, 5  ). Salvation is through Jesus alone, and there is no other
( John 14: 6 ). Hebrews 9 is a good summary.

In the Millenium, there will be no Satan to blame for tempting us to sin. He will be bound for 1,000 years.
Yet there will be sinners that number the sand of the sea ( Rev. 20: 8 ) , even with King Jesus reigning upon this earth.
How ? Why ?
Because God has given to us a free-will . We can choose to serve Him freely, or reject His atonement.
Free will is the middle step that I did not fully realize before I became born again .....  but now I do.

May this help your correspondent friend,
Jim Goodrick