To Mercer: regarding Revelation 5's "proof" of a pre-trib rapture
I think you're forgetting that there's already been one resurrection of saints. The 24 Elders could very well be from this resurrection:
Matt 27:51-53 'And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.'YBIC,
Bill Griese