Steve Berryman (26
Feb 2008)
"Comments to the Doves"
I wish to thank each of the Doves who read the
"4 Biblical Signs of the Rapture in the Spring of 2008" and especially
those who wrote a note. We all work for the same living God and for
His glory, not our own. But like all you I'm sure, I find the majority
of my relatives and friends not all that receptive to the prophetic scriptures
and warnings. Therefore, it is natural to feel a little isolated
at times. So when someone says "I enjoyed that", or "I learned
something", it surely soothes the soul and gives a little inspiration.
I love watchers. They are my kind of people,
even when we might disagree a bit. I've learned from many of the
doves as well. Paul NF's letters have helped me keep on the right
road when I was tending to veer away. Marilyn Agee's book "Revelations
2000" got me back into scripture and prophecy after a few years neglect.
Jim, Bob and many others delve into deep subjects sometimes involving more
complex analogies. I personally love mathematical, geometric and
symbolic designs etc. Even when I do not fully understand, they still
amaze and add to the mystery of God. While I speak of the simple
themes/threads found in scripture, it is not to say that God doesn't have
some complex and beautiful models which should be examined. Indeed
He does and they bring a wonder to the mind. Some of these shed light
on appointed days as well.
I hate that the letter was so long. That discourages
some from enduring to the end. But there are so many parts which
must be connected because they are supportive. I said then and I
say again, if a man cannot grasp the story of both houses of the children
of Jacob, he/she will never understand end time prophecy. Neither
does that person understand the nature of our God. He never speaks
carelessly, nor makes any promise that He will not ensure. His word
always accomplishes its purpose. God put His honor on the line when He
pronounced the blessings (promises) to Abraham and his seed. Both
houses were to be center stage in world affairs during the last days.
In fact, you can see all the tribes were well blessed, being wealthy industrialized
nations.
It appears Satan did a good job in deceiving our theological
seminaries as this fact seems hidden from our church leadership.
To me, it is so evident that I am stunned by the denial of the church.
God goes so far as to say they are willingly ignorant. You will see farther
down where God says Ephraim's priests and prophets err in vision and stumble
in judgement.
For any that might have been offended by my off the wall
remarks about not writing books or referring to other web sites:
I really wasn't attempting to be critical. Everyone has their calling
and should do as they are led. It has a purpose. God reaches
people through many avenues. As I look back, I realize some might
take it wrong and be offended. Late at night when you are pushing
to complete something, you just don't always think clearly. My only
defense is one we used to use in the army when we were being chewed out......It
seemed like a good idea at the time.
Ted Porter had a couple questions. The one he considered
most important was whether the 7 year curse followed the rapture of the
bride. Yes, without a doubt. The blessing ends at the 401st
stripe sometime in May. The 7 year curse follows. The seals
of Revelations will also open. These are two separate things though
connected. Ephraim and Manasseh are heavily involved in pushing the
peoples of the world together, i.e. forming the New World Order global
government (Deut 33:17). Ephraim is also heavily involved in the
false peace treaty called the covenant with Death and Hell (Isaiah 28:
15 & 18, Daniel 9:27). But the laws of blessing and cursing was
given by Moses for the descendents of the patriarchs (Lev 26 & Deut
27-30). The seals of Revelations are for the whole world including
Jacob's children. They start about the same time, but the curse last
7 years and the seals for 10 years (Rev 2:10) plus the time between the
spring and fall feasts.
Unlike Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel 4, Ephraim will not repent.
The 7 year curse will end in Ephraim's sudden and utter fiery destruction
in one hours time. The world will be amazed. It will happen
shortly after the Satan embodied false prophet (Second Beast) comes to
power at the end of the 4th trumpet. It is this Second Beast who
kills the two witnesses and then the tribulation saints are resurrected
with them (Rev 11:7-12). This Second Beast then subdues (makes fall)
3 of the kings (horns/princes) (Daniel 7: 20 & 24). Since this
is at the same time as the destruction of Ephraim, I do believe they are
related. The coming to power of this Second Beast (Satan embodied)
marks the beginning of the last 3.5 years (1260 days) of the seals.
It is the time of the 3 Woes, i.e. the 5th, 6th and 7th trumpets.
The 7th trumpet contain the 7 vials of God's wrath (Rev 16:1).
This last 1260 day period is noted in Rev 12:6.
It is talking about the woman who flees into the wilderness, where
there is a place prepared (during the 3.5 years of Woes). This is
the same group as the remnant in Rev 11:13 which were affrighted upon seeing
the witnesses and saints resurrected and the great earthquake in the city
of Jerusalem. These are the 144,000 sealed of the tribes of Israel
(Rev 7: 3-8), just ahead of the tribulation saints arriving in heaven (Rev
7:9-15). They are sealed to protect them from the demons which are
loosed at the 5th and 6th trumpets (Rev 9:4). Save this group of
mortal men there are no repentant men left on earth during this last 3.5
years (Rev 9: 20-21). The bride and the tribulation saints are no
longer here. 144,000 is a number of governmental perfection and this
group will be those mortal leaders of the reconstituted nation of Israel
(both houses/all tribes) after Jesus returns. I believe these are
the work of the two witnesses.
The number of the bride is also 144,000 (Rev 14:1-5),
but these are immortal and will be part of Jesus' immortal global government
over the mortal nations. They will be kings and priests during the
kingdom (Rev 5: 10). The number of the tribulation saints is a multitude
too great to number (Rev 7:9). They will serve as priests of God
during the kingdom (Rev 20:4-6)
That 144,000 is the number of the bride seems without
question as this number is clearly seen in her home in Revelations 21.
She is a model of governmental perfection and the number 12. The
bride is found before the throne before the seals are opened in Revelations
5: 9-10. She sings a new song, is redeemed unto God by the blood of the
lamb and is made up of every kindred, tongue, people and nation (therefore
these are not OT saints). There is no number mentioned here.
But the group described in Rev 14:1-5 are remarkably similar and their
number is 144,000. They too sing a new song before the throne, are
redeemed from the earth and redeemed among men, virgins (born again), and
first fruits without fault before the Lamb and God. Sounds like the
bride to me. The group in Rev 5:9 seem to be the same group as in
14:1-5. The question is......is that number symbolic, figurative,
some multiple or some amplification like 144,000,000. It is possible
it is a real selective group......many called, but few chosen. Worthiness
for this reward is a serious thing, over and above the free gift of salvation.
I'm not preaching, but take heed.
Back to the 7 year curse of Ephraim. You can see
Ephraim is not around during the last 3 to 3.5 years of the seals.
There is a 1/3 remnant which comes out of this disaster. They are
carried into captivity and scattered among the nations. I suppose
there is a world wide rescue and salvage (pilferage) effort. Upon
Jesus' return, this remnant will be brought back into the Promised Land
where the 144,000 sealed will be their mortal governmental leaders.
Blessed Ephraim becomes the cursed commercial Babylon
in scripture. Several times she is called the daughter of Babylon.
Read Revelations 18. It is about the destruction of commercial Babylon.
The rapture is clearly seen in verse 4, the curse in verse 6 and our final
end in verse 10, 17 & 19. Now notice in verse 23 the final death
and resurrection of the tribulation saints. The rapture of the bride
and the final death/resurrection of the tribulation saints bracket the
7 year curse period.
This is seen again in Isaiah 28. This is a great
read about Ephraim, drunk with pride, whose glorious beauty is a fading
flower. Verses 4 & 5 speak to the rapture. Verse
7 speaks to our priests and prophets who err in vision and stumble in judgement.
We rule over the people of Jerusalem in verse 14. Verses 15 &
18 speak to our part in the covenant with Death and Hell and our falsehood
in dealing with Judah (nation state Israel). Verse 25 closes the
period with a reminder that the bride and tribulation saints (wheat, barley
and rye) have been gathered into their place. Again, the rapture
of the bride and the final death/resurrection of the tribulation saints
bracket this 7 year period.
If you do not think we are commercial Babylon, then examine
Ezekial 27 & 28. This is about the destruction of Tyrus.
Tyre was a prominent Phoenician commercial/shipping island city/state off
the coast of present day Lebanon. They were in the edge of the Mediterranean
Sea (singular). This passage speaks to a great commercial power in
the midst of the seas (plural). This speaks to the glorious USA in
the midst of the Atlantic, Pacific, Arctic Oceans and Caribbean and Bering
Seas. Her rowers carried her into great waters. They followed
an east wind (goes west). Thy borders (more than one) are in the
midst of the seas (plural). Thy builders have perfected thy beauty.
No secret can be kept from her. Her heart is lifted up because of
riches. We are even compared with Lucifer. We are to be brought
to ashes.
Examine Ezekial 17: 1-10. This is a riddle and
parable to the house of Israel. Ephraim and Manasseh were given Jacob's
surname Israel (Gen 48:16). You can see it confirmed in 1 Chron 5:1.
This passage is about a great eagle with feathers of divers colors.
It is set in a land of merchants. The seed of the land is planted
in a fruitful field and placed by great waters. While you are here
examine the abasement of Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel 4. He was abased
by God for 7 years because he walked in pride. He grows hairs as
eagles feathers and nails as eagles claws (vs 33). Look at the eagle
on our dollar bill. This 7 years of Nebuchadnezzar is very comparable
to the 7 year curse of Ephraim. The difference is Nebuchadnezzar
repents and recognizes the authority of God. He is restored.
Ephraim will not repent.
Those who know mythology should know the story of the
Phoenix bird. It is a great bird similar to the eagle with scarlet
and purple (royal blue) feathers. It has to die in order for a new
Phoenix bird to be born out of its body. The occult see this as the
USA having to die in order to bring birth to the New World Order global
government. It seems by the prophecies that God knew this ages ago.
Take note when you see our government officials and politicians wearing
the emblem of the Phoenix.
I will show you other scriptures which point these same
things out when I get to the letters about Joseph.
Ted Porter wasn't sure about the roles of John the apostle
and John the Baptist at the wedding. I was just doing a little educated
speculation on the subject. Just a little fun. Personally,
I will be extremely happy if I am there, even at the tail end of the line.
Concerning John the Baptist. He died before Jesus and therefore was
part of the Old Testament saints. This group was resurrected with
Jesus in Matthew 27: 52-53. Notice that many of the OT saints were
resurrected, not all. Again, this is a worthiness issue. In
Acts 1:9, a cloud received Jesus out of sight. I say to you the evidence
is this is not a vapor cloud, but the OT saints dressed in white which
ascended with Him. It would seem they went first and He followed
catching up. God did not put them back in their graves.
Notice in 1 Thes 4:17 the saints are gathered up in clouds (plural).
There is one for the resurrected dead, then later one for the living wise
virgins. Notice in Rev 11:12, the two witnesses ascend in a cloud.
The cloud is the tribulation saints. Notice in Revelations 1:7 Jesus
returns with clouds (plural). These are the immortal saints dressed
in white and likely many angels as well.
Now about the role of the OT saints and John the Baptist
at the wedding. There is a role for all the OT saints at the wedding
though they are not the bride. John 3:29 says John the Baptist is
the friend of the bridegroom and he rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom's
voice....this is his part of the joy of that occasion. These OT saints
are the groom's bridal party. Indeed they have been great friends
in heaven these last 2000 years.
My case for John the Baptist as best man. Luke
offers the best read on John the Baptist. In the first chapter, Zacharias
is informed by the angel Gabriel that his prayer was heard and his wife
will have a child. Elisabeth was old, barren and stricken in
age. The angel told him to name the child John. He was not
to drink wine nor strong drink. He would be filled with the Holy
Ghost, even from his mother's womb. Zacharias was made dumb, that he could
not speak until John was born. In the meantime an angel visits Mary and
she becomes pregnant with Jesus. As Elisabeth is 6 months pregnant,
Mary visits her. When Elisabeth sees Mary, John kicks in the womb
and Elisabeth is filled with the Holy Ghost. Elisabeth announces
to Mary that she is blessed by the fruit of her womb and she is the mother
of her Lord. It would seem John starts his mission early to announce
Jesus and prepare His way. Mary and Elisabeth are cousins, therefore
Jesus and John are cousins and only 6 months apart.
In the 7th chapter of Luke, Jesus says that John was
much more than a prophet (vs 6). Jesus says he was the messenger
announced by God, sent to prepare His (Jesus') way (vs 27).
Jesus says among those born of women, there is not a greater prophet than
John the Baptist (vs 28). John was thought by many to be the Christ.
He had a powerful ministry. But, when Jesus came John accepted the
fact that his ministry must diminish that Jesus might be glorified.
John knew he would die and willingly did so, beheaded for Christ.
If Jesus says that there is no greater man than John the Baptist, His cousin,
then I fully expect John to be the number one man in the groom's bridal
party. They have been friends since before they were born.
I think the case for John the apostle as the bride closest
to Jesus is pretty solid. John, the disciple Jesus loved and whom
laid his head on Jesus' breast at the last supper, demonstrates a special
love perspective. His gospel is clearly unique from Matthew, Mark
and Luke. It has a love character. He is much like the church
at Philadelphia for whom there is an open door. He is the only man
carried in spirit up to heaven and given a preview of the rapture of the
bride and the seals following. He was at the transfiguration with
Peter, but he outran Peter to Jesus' grave. He was the 4th disciple
chosen, a number associated with the bride.
I will close with this little numeric example done by
using the English alphabet and numbering it 1 - 26. It is the new language
God gave Joseph.
From the day Jesus died, a day 4 (Wednesday) Passover
Preparation day, until Ascension day is 44 days, inclusive counting.
Faith = 44 Hope = 44
Jesus = 74 Joshua = 74 fruit = 74
When you break fruit into consonants and vowels, you get 44
+ 30, i.e. faith/hope + 3 (the number of the Holy Spirit).
Christ = 77
John = 47, the mirror reflected (reversed) image of Jesus.
I suspect a John on each side of the groom.
Just a little fun speculation.
Steve
PS: We will get to the follow on letters as quickly
as I can. Thanks.