Dear friends:

Last night I got a telephone call from fellow watchman Dr. Armando Pardillo of New Mexico.  Armando pointed out to me that a Five Doves post in January pointed to the same date as another post by a different person in February, both totally independent and using a totally different method and assumption.  Both pointed to the Day of Atonement, October 8-9, 2008.  Here they are:

Post # 1.  Armando reminded me that fellow watchman and mutual friend Dr. William Zambrano of Florida had previously called this one to our attention.  On January 9, Ted Porter posted a reply to "TJ's" "A Can't Miss Calculation" at http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2008/tedp19-3.htm, with links from "TJ."  It showed how exactly 49 Jewish (360-day) years from the day Israel captured the Temple Mount on June 7, 1967 = 49 X 360 = 17640 days, which takes one to September 22, 23, 2015, the Day of Atonement.  Now, go back 7 years from the Day of Atonement in 2015 and you arrive at the Day of Atonement in 2008, October 9.  Could this be the beginning of the final seven years?

The Miracle Six-Day War in 1967 in Israel and specifically June 7, 1967 are widely considered to be when the end-time countdown began.  That is when the fig tree, Israel, put forth its leaves, and Jesus said when we see this happen we know "He is near, right at the door," and "this generation" (the generation that sees this) will not pass away until all comes to pass (Matthew 24:32-34).

If June 7, 1967 was such a historic prophetic marker, then the date derived by adding seven weeks of years (49 years) to it seems profoundly significant.

Post # 2. On February 15, 2005, Lauren Berns posted a message at http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2008/lauren215.htm in which she traces the 120 Jubilees from Adam as allotted to man and with a link ( http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=16401) reveals an obscure prophecy by Ezekiel recorded in the Jewish Talmud (Sanh. 97b), all of which also point to the Day of Atonement, October 9, 2008.  I find this date agreement with the previously described message remarkable.

Lauren's end-time scenario is unconventional and difficult for me to understand so far, but her arrival at that specific date is most intriguing.

I do not comprehend what all this may mean.  One possibility is that October 9, 2008 may begin the final seven years, or Tribulation, and/or 70th week of Daniel.  If that is true, the rapture could be anytime before that, such as in the Spring 2008, as many believe.  I am not dogmatically saying that and just mentioning it as a possibility, so save your ammo and use it against the devil!

Regardless of how things may play out, the above numbers plus many other world and Middle East factors definitely indicate we are in the final countdown. 

So what does Jesus say to do?  "When these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near" (Luke 21:28, NKJV).

"You, brothers, are not in darkness so that this Day should surprise you like a thief"  (1 Thessalonians 5:4, NIV).

Jim