Carl Lindquist (12 Feb 2008)
"Re Ellen Gonzales' distrust of Eby, Frank Molver is right on."


Frank Molver is right on!
 
Ellen Gonzales' article disparaging Dr. Richard Eby really bothers me. 
 
For one thing I vaguely recall some post that mentioned a good friend of Eby's (a minister or doctor) stated the Dr. Eby was so physically overburdened with physical ailments including declining memory, and the long term ravages on his body that being physically dead 18 hours or so produced (which I would speculate would guarantee widespread reflex sympathetic dystrophy due to severe nerve damage) , that he prayed for the Lord to release him from this world and just let him go Home to be with Him.  I think Jim Bramlett had posted something about this in the past.
 
 
Secondly, Dr. Eby was for many years Dean of an osteopathic medical school in Kirksville, Missouri, (or the one in Kansas City) and was a past president of the national American College of Osteopathic Obstetricians and Gynecologists. One characteristic of the academic milieu which persons who function in this high an ethereal environment have is that reputation is everything.  You have to be around these people to see how true this is.  I seriously doubt a medical school dean would come out with this story of coming back to life after being dead for 18 hours unless it was absolutely true.  It could be so easily discredited.  Dr. Eby put his entire academic reputation on the line the moment he published and spoke about this experience. 

I would think long and hard before dismissing what he says.  He at least deserves that much.

Thirdly, she seems to harkens from the school of Christianity that strongly doubts and casts doubt on anything supernatural.  The school whose motto seems to be, "Look what my God could do."
 
Fourth, he describes the psychotic-like reaction of the neurosurgeon who saw him when he was brought in dead---his reaction when he saw Dr. Eby open his eyes and start talking the next day.  The man was an blatant atheist, and he could not handle this event, he went completely bonkers (the best medical term I can think of to describe his reaction), and started swearing and cursing at the corpse who was supposed to be dead. 

Anything that remotely smacks of the supernatural taking place today (see Hank Hannegraph) is immediately cast in a doubting way.  Well, God is a Supernatural Being and performs supernatural Acts!  Today as well as yesterday.

To say that no one has ever seen Heaven or Hell in the spirit and lived to talk about it today because no one ever did it in ancient times is incredibly ridiculous.  They did not have CPR resuscitative techniques or intensivist medical care and procedures that could rescue someone from a fatal event in those days.
 
There is so much lack of childlike faith in the United States today.  Compare what missionaries in Africa and Asia routinely experience in the supernatural compared to the United States and Europe. 
 
I have a retired  minister patient (I think the Calvary Chapel group) whom I had followed for several years.  It was not till 2 or 3 years that I learned he was a charismatic.  He was talking about being in a missionary outreach group overseas in Africa talking to some Africans about receiving the Holy Spirit.  Without fanfare, he in a descriptive tone stated for them to lift up their hands to God and pray to receive the Holy Spirit.
 
Wham!!  As they lifted up their hands, the entire church of 100 people sitting on benches all in unison fell backwards on their backs with their benches toppling over under the power of God.  He was utterly shocked.  Childlike faith.
 
Finally, in your own way consciously or unconsciously, your are trying to quiet the supernatural using religious warnings that correspond in effect to the war against the supernatural acts of God being waged by the secularists.  Just when you thought you had disposed of Dr. Eby's testimony, here comes James Rutz, a journalist documenting hundreds of resurrections of the dead through prayer by Christians overseas, in his book, "Megatrends:Igniting Spiritual Power." In a blistering World Net Daily editorial, he blasts the Titanic movie producer, James Cameron, for trying to show that Jesus never rose from the dead.  Not only did HE rise but HE is answering the prayers of the childlike and faithful believers overseas today with mighty resurrections through prayer to Him.  I
 quote and set a link to the editorial:
 

"Those who would try to disparage the long-ago resurrection of the Lord now face a far harder problem: explaining away the many hundreds (or thousands) of today's easily verifiable resurrections that are staring us in the face from 52 lands, including the U.S. and Canada.

They cannot defend their outdated skepticism by arrogantly claiming that third-world peasants are too dumb to recognize final death and often lack scientific instruments to show a flatline. When a Christian from, say, rural Mexico sees a body with no pulse, no breathing, dilated pupils and stiffening limbs, I think he's well within his rights to reply, "We don't have to show you no stinkin' flatline!"

And please, the reports in "Megashift" are not "near-death experiences" (NDEs) under anesthesia where a patient passes out for a few minutes, goes down a long tunnel, sees a bright light, then encounters Jesus (or Mary if he's a Catholic or Buddha if he's a Buddhist, etc.). Six percent of all resuscitations from cardiac arrests now produce such NDEs.

No, what we're seeing today is the real thing. For instance, you've seen my periodic reports about the work of Iris Ministries in Mozambique run by my friend Heidi Baker and her husband, Rolland. When I spoke with her last fall, she said they've now counted 60 resurrections in their ministry.

And exactly who is doing all these resurrections? Heidi herself? No, Iris Ministries has now taken in 5,000 orphaned children ? whom they somehow feed day after day, with no visible means of support (hint, hint). And while Heidi has seen many people healed through her prayers (very often deaf people), she has had only one resurrection. What about the other 59? They've almost all been done by the kids."

http://wnd.com/index.php?pageId=40476

 

To top it off, a lady friend of a patient told me several weeks ago that she is a personal friend and acquaintance of Heidi Baker, who runs Iris ministries overseas.  She  sees Heidi Baker about once a year when she visits the United States This lady friend of Heidi conformed to me personally, that what James Rutz wrote in his column is 100% true, that there have been 60 or more resurrections over in Mozambique, most of them through the prayers of children!!

I have her testimony on my camera and computer, but the mov type of Quik Time movie takes a ridiculous amount of space: 133,000,000 bytes for just 3 minutes or so, so am trying to find a way to reduce it in size.  If I can get it changed to avi format, it would be MUCH smaller file will try to post that.

I respect Ellen for her posts over the years and in no way mean to attack her personally, just disagree with her views about Richard Eby.