Hi Jan and Deborah

I am fully aware of the dates of the founding of the Israeli state and about the UN vote to divide the land (on the west bank of the Jordan) between Jews and Arabs, that created the state of Israel and the resulting war and the peace deal in 1949 between Israel and its neighbours that gave the West Bank including East Jerusalem to Jordan and the Gaza Strip to Egypt and then the 1967 six day war where Israel won these two places from those countries.

After reading both your letters I understand where you are coming from – you two see it as God being involved with the nation of Israel and the Jews living there since the creation of the state of Israel in 1948, whereas I am going further back than that, when God started bringing Jews back to the land in the 1860s, and in the 1880s when Baron de Rothschild of France used his millions to build settlements for the housing of the returning Jews.   Until 1948 the Jews in Palestine where governed by the Rothschild Administration under the first the Ottoman Turks and then the British.  So they were a self-governing community in the country under those two occupiers.

Unfortunately, the Israelis still don’t accept Jesus as their Messiah, which means that they are still not right with God, and God still has some hard times and things to teach them until they do.  In my opinion.  God brought them back to the land starting in the 1860s (some of them anyway – still today more Jews live outside Israel than there), but they still have not turned back to Him and to their Messiah.

I have read the posts outlining disasters in the US connected to demands to give up land for peace, but can I have an open mind about whether it is just coincidence?

I don’t think that that Ezekiel 36-37 have been fully fulfilled yet, that it is only in the early stages of these prophecies for two reasons:

1.  Just less than half of the Jews in the world have gone to Israel in these last approx. 150 years.
2.  They haven’t accepted Jesus as their Messiah and are following Him as described in the last four or five verses at the end of Ezekiel 37.

Deborah, I couldn’t open that Chuck Missler link.

Lydia