Matt (24 Feb 2006)
"re: John Bidwell (18 Feb 2006)"


re: John Bidwell (18 Feb 2006)

Bidwell: "In the beginning God created everything including life on earth and angelic beings some of whom later became corrupt and became demons or fallen angels."

This does not necessarily explain "the sons of God" described in Genesis and Job. Life on earth is amazingly complex, and we can assume life in "outer space" among the "heavenly host" is also complex. Angels appear like young men, and there are also   serephim, cheribum, etc. The Bible describes each group differently. There are also unclean spirits, and some are described like frogs and birds in the Bible.

Bidwell: "The alien abduction phenomenon is no mo! re than modern day demon possession."

Perhaps it is more complicated than that. The hybrid creatures  described in  Genesis 6:4 may be what is happening. This differs from an unclean spirit or possession by devils. Abduction and hybridization must be an interaction with something physical, but otherworldly.

Bidwell: "The Spirit of God and demons cannot co-exist in a person. One has to go and guess who wins every time."

Peter was rebuked by Jesus who called him "Satan" and in 1 Corinthians 5:5 it says a person can be given over to Satan to destroy his body -this means that Satan can kill a Christian if God allows it. Satan can influence a Christian! 's mind, take away his health, kill him, decieve him, and torment him, just like Paul's thorn in the flesh - "a messenger of Satan to buffet me". There are Bible principles to follow for resisting the Devil, but in general the only promise we know for all Christians (including backsliders) is that God will preserve the spirit after death thus assuring the salvation of a Christian's soul (1 Corinthians 5:5). Perhaps "possession" is too strong a word, but Satan is very powerful, and only the Lord can actually rebuke him. See Jude 1:9.

Bidwell: "To believe in advanced civilisations on distant planets one has to also accept evolution to be true, another modern day deception."

Not necessarily, since if they exist God must have created them, and they could not have evolved. Evolution myths told by UFO creatures are clearly the Devil's lies.

Without vouching for everything out there (a lot is bogus), I think some of the UFO stuff is probably real and related to Genesis 6:4.

Here is a link to their site:

Angels & Aliens, A Comparison
http://www.alienresistance.org/angels_and_aliens.htm