Matt (14 Feb 2006)
"The USA in the Bible"


Is "Mystery Bablyon" of Rev. 17,
the "Land of unwalled villages" of Ezekiel 38,
and the "Eagle's wings" of Daniel 7,
all prophesies about the USA?
 

Since it is the end times, of which the Bible describes so much, wouldnt' the USA be in the Bible? The USA is the "supper power" of the day, and it is the land where most of the world's Jews live. How could God overlook it?
 

Just as the original Babylon was a unity of diverse peoples  integrating together, so it is in Rev 17:15 that it says, "The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." Could this be the USA?

Since the USA also posed as a Christian nation (since that is how it originated), today it qualifies as a spiritual adulteres whose has preached to the world its gods of Hollywood, "democracy" ,  and "to! llerance" - and spiting in God's face despite the riches he blessed her with.

However, the passage says the woman sits on "seven  mountains" - and that seems to indicate the seven hills on which Rome and the Vatican are built, which as a church is also a "nation" of spiritual apostacy (i.e., the sacrifice of the Mass, Pedastery scandals, Marian cult, etc.). John also says, "And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus:" and this sounds like the Roman Catholic inquisition under which many Christians died. The golden cup and the purple and scarlet robes also remind us of the Roman Catholic rites.

Could both interpretations be right?

Perhaps the USA will experience a "moral rearmament" led by the Knights of Columbus, Opies Die, Jesuits, and many leading converted Roman Catholics - who will take over the country in the name of unity and restoration of "moral values".

Sin! ce America is not "drunk with the blood of the saints" yet - perhaps this type of coup will lead to it. They might abolish the seperation between church and state, and behead any who oppose them.

Later in Rev 17 we see the whore is hated and destroyed by the 10 headed beast representing the revived Roman Empire.
 

In Ezekiel 38 
"Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:"

Note "also" and "at the same time" - this seems to clearly be a seperate attack of a different land by Gog/Magog.

"And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,"

a good description of America's carefree suburbia -

"To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land."

- This land is newly inhabited
- This lan! d is filled with diverse immigrants
- This land is rich in goods.

That last point does not describe Israel. It seems that it is describing America - in the midst of the land between Mexico and Canada.

Daniel chapter 7 describes four beasts:

"And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it."

The lion could be England, and perhaps the plucked wings of the eagle represent the USA being destroyed.
 
 

Put together this is what it looks like this [comments welcome]:

- America becomes a Roman Catholic-dictatorship (Rev 17)
- America is lead by the Vatican yet hated by the EU (Rev 17)
- Christians/Jews are beheaded and killed in! the USA (Rev 17)
- The Jews flee from America and return to Israel (Rev 18:4)
- Russia decides to invade a chaotic America (Ezekiel 38-39)
- Arabs attack Israel at the same time (Ez 38)
- Russia is "turned back" to defend the Arabs (Ez 38-39)
- Russia and America nuke each other (Ez 39)
- Russia destroyed back to Siberia (Joel 2:20)
- American continent is completely wipped out (Dan 7)
- The remaining beast, the EU takes over the world, and forces all to worship Satan (Rev 13:4)

I would bet that this chain reaction starts once the Christians in the Church-Age get raptured out.

After we are gone, the salvation plan changes: it become a matter of "enduring to the end" - not taking the mark, and dying for Christ.

Any thoughts?
 

- M