David W. Zavitz (3 Feb 2006)
"As 'the fulness of time' draws nearer ... shouldn't some scriptures become clearer?"


Shalom dear doves,
 

It may not be much longer that we can freely enjoy the
excellent hosting of our brother ...

Just wanted to say 'thank-you' to all who have so
freely given ... and looking forward to seeing y'all
soon ...
 

Here is a little 'study' I came across the other day
that may contain some new insights for these days
ahead:
 

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Recalling the pattern of 'Jacob's troubles'   ...
 

7 years (for Rachael ... but obtained Leah)
+
7 years (for Rachael ... again)
+
6 years (and then they left for land of Israel ...
in/after 6 years later ...)
 
 

Now ... note possibility of 'this pattern repeating'
for this time of Jabob's troubles ...

if we count the 2300 'evenings and mornings' from the
end of the 2nd '7 year' period ...

2300 / 365.25     = 6.2970568104038329911019849418207

( point of interest ... 1/2 this is 3.14 or 'pi' ...
  or 2pi = 2300/365.25 ie first 3 digits are equal )

1st 7 year period ... sep 13 1993 to sep 13 2000

2nd 7 year period ... sep 13 2000 to sep 13 2007
 

and sep 13 2007 + 6 years = sep 13 2013

then from ... sep 13 2007 +
0.2970568104038329911019849418207 ( x 365.25 days)

= sep 13, 2013 + 108.5 days
= dec 13, 2013 + 17.5 days
= dec 31, 2013 .... (the VERY LAST DAY of that year)

NOTE DEC 31, 2013 IS still 'within the 6th year' from
the end of the 2nd '7' ...
 
 

Here are KEY texts to consider ... and please note
possible GREAT significance of highlighted ORIGINAL
text of Daniel 8:11 as shown below:

(Note also that 'daily' is also translated
'continual', and 'sacrifice', added by translaters, is
not shown.)
 
 

Daniel 8:

26  And the vision of the *** EVENING and the MORNING
*** which was told is true: ...
 

Daniel 7:

1. .... Daniel had a dream and visions of his head
upon *** HIS BED ***:

   then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the
matters.

2  Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision *** BY
NIGHT ***,

   and, behold,

   the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great
sea.
3  And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse
one from another ...
 

Daniel 8:

11  Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of
the host, and by him the continual [daily - what is
context here?] was **** SET UP **** [set up was
original reading according to Strongs notes, and
'taken away' was the scribal marginal 'correction' the
AV used here in their 'text'], and the place of his
[who's santuary?] sanctuary was cast down.

14  And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three
hundred days ['days' is translation of ***
'EVENINGs/sunsets and MORNINGs / break of days' *** -
original]; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
 
 

Now see context of these KEY texts ...

Daniel 8:

13  Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint
said unto that certain saint which spake, How long
shall be the vision concerning the continual [daily -
what is context here?], and the transgression of
desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to
be trodden under foot?
14  And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three
hundred days ['days' is translation here of 'evenings
/ sunsets and mornings / break of days' - the
original]; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
 

23  And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the
transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce
countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall
stand up.
24  And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own
power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall
prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty
and the holy people.
25  And through his policy also he shall cause craft
to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself
in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he
shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but
he shall be broken without hand.
26  And the vision of the evening and the morning
which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the
vision; for it shall be for many days.
27  And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days;
afterward I rose up, and did the king’s business; and
I was astonished at the vision, but none understood
it.
 
 

Now here is the context of the vision of the EVENING
and the MORNING" that Daniel had 'upon his bed':

Daniel 7:
1  In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon
Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his
bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the
matters.
2  Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night,
and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon
the great sea.
3  And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse
one from another.
4  The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I
beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was
lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet
as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
5  And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear,
and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three
ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and
they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
6  After this I beheld, and lo another, like a
leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a
fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was
given to it.
7  After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a
fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong
exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured
and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the
feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts
that were before it; and it had ten horns.
8  I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up
among them another little horn, before whom there were
three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and,
behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man,
and a mouth speaking great things.

9  I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the
Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as
snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his
throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as
burning fire.
10  A fiery stream issued and came forth from before
him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten
thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the
judgment was set, and the books were opened.
11  I beheld then because of the voice of the great
words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the
beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to
the burning flame.
12  As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had
their dominion taken away: yet their lives were
prolonged for a season and time.
13  I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like
the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and
came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near
before him.
14  And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a
kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages,
should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting
dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom
that which shall not be destroyed.

15  I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of
my body, and the visions of my head troubled me.
16  I came near unto one of them that stood by, and
asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and
made me know the interpretation of the things.
17  These great beasts, which are four, are four
kings, which shall arise out of the earth.
18  But the saints of the most High shall take the
kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for
ever and ever.
19  Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast,
which was diverse from all the others, exceeding
dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of
brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped
the residue with his feet;
20  And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of
the other which came up, and before whom three fell;
even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that
spake very great things, whose look was more stout
than his fellows.
21  I beheld, and the same horn made war with the
saints, and prevailed against them;
22  Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was
given to the saints of the most High; and the time
came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
23  Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth
kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all
kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall
tread it down, and break it in pieces.
24  And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten
kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after
them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he
shall subdue three kings.
25  And he shall speak great words against the most
High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High,
and think to change times and laws: and they shall be
given into his hand until a time and times and the
dividing of time.
26  But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take
away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto
the end.
27  And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of
the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to
the people of the saints of the most High, whose
kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions
shall serve and obey him.
28  Hitherto is the end of the matter. As for me
Daniel, my cogitations much troubled me, and my
countenance changed in me: but I kept the matter in my
heart.

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Shalom shalom,

David

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