Kathy (4 Feb 2005)
"RE: MJ Martin Feast of Trumpets (Open Door)--excellent arguments, but...."


First I would like to say that I have been reading Five Doves for the past couple of years and have learned so much from the faithful followers and posters on Doves.  And for that, many thanks1
 
I also learned another thing though, and that is that not everything is so balck and white when it comes to the things of God.  I sence that we are in a time when we should not "slumber and sleep" because the midnight cry will be upon us very soon.
 
Here is what else you might like to consider:  The following is taken from Chapter 1 of the "Coming Rapture" From the Open Door
http://www.thefirstfruits.org/opendoor/ch_01.htm
 
Bible scholars have been curious as to why there are two feasts that celebrate Firstfruits. The Feast of Firstfruits (Lev. 23:10-13) was celebrated in the late spring by offering one sheaf of the firstfruits of the harvest before the Lord along with a meat (i.e., meal) offering of unleavened bread and wine. Leaven in the Bible has always been used to symbolize sin or that which is evil or corrupting. Jesus lived a sinless life, and He was resurrected from the dead on this feast day as a fulfillment of prophecy.
The next feast that the Israelites celebrated in early summer was Pentecost, also called the Day of Firstfruits. Pentecost was when the Israelites could start eating the grain from their field that had matured early. It was celebrated by offering two loaves of bread baked with leaven. "They are the Firstfruits unto the Lord" (Lev. 23:17). This feast represents the pretribulational rapture of mature believers who, though forgiven, are not sinless. These are the Philadelphia believers "clothed in white raiment" who are given the "open door" of the Firstfruits Rapture (Rev. 4:1-4).
At the end of summer, the next feast was the Feast of Trumpets to celebrate the main harvest when all believers will be raised at the last trump. Now, all the grain has matured from the heat of the summer sun. This feast represents the main harvest of all remaining believers who "have washed their robes" and have matured during the trials of the first half of the tribulation (Rev. 7:9-14).
If the reader can understand these three feasts, two firstfruits and the main harvest, then he will be able to clearly see that there is a Firstfruits Harvest of the Church in addition to the resurrection of Jesus Christ as the first of the firstfruits. Jesus is the one sheaf of grain offered without leaven, and the two loaves of bread baked with leaven are the firstfruits of the Church.

The rest of this article is worth reading and may explain why so many arguments are over pre-trib vs. mid-trib (or now said to be pre-wrath)  Both may be right!  As would then both Feasts that are continually pointed at (Pentecost and Feast of Trumpets).  We are told in Luke 21:36 (KJV) Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.  There must be a reason that Paul, in his letters, admonishes Christians on many occasions to "watch".  Also think about this....He is saying this to Believers not those that are already lost.
 
Many may have already read this because the link "Open Door" is on this web site under "The 11th Hour Connections"  No one person has all the answers and it is our job to be discerning with guidance from the Holy Spirit, through God's Word, as to what is truth and what can be thrown out as pure conjecture.  There is also the possibility that the Rapture will occur "at an hour when ye think not" Luk 12:40
 
Kathy