from WhodaThunk
Gerlinda,
You said in you post http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/gerlinda1222-3.htm
"I once had a person tell me that this couldn't be the face of
God because no one ever saw it and lived."
If the shroud was the image of Jesus, then you could view it and
live. The scripture that says no one can see the face of
God and live, is talking about the literal face of God, not an
image.
The shroud of Turin, cannot possibly be the image of Jesus
Christ, and one only has to look to how scripture describes Him
to know that. While many, most in the Catholic Church,
have promoted this as the burial cloth of Jesus, their failure
to check this out via scripture indicates to me that their
belief in the Bible as God's Word is lacking.
The image that comes to my mind when the so called scientists,
who are based in the EU, is; are these the same scientists, 200
0f them, that after two years of research came to the conclusion
that water does not hydrate.
Isaiah 53:2 For he shall grow up before
him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he
hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him,
there is no beauty that we should desire him.
Isaiah describes Him as a man who was not handsome, yet this
image is of a handsome man.
Isaiah 50:6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks
to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face
from shame and spitting.
The Roman soldiers who scourged (tortured) Him ripped out His
beard, yet is this seen in the image? No, and since was
beaten so bad He was to weak to carry His cross one might wonder
why the soldiers spared His face from the beating? They
didn't, yet this face doesn't look like it has much damage to
it.
Another point, there was no shroud around the face, only a cloth
was laid on it, the shroud was around the entire rest of the
body. The actual shroud would have been soaked in a
lacquer like substance, myrrh, which became hard as a
rock. So if this was a burial cloth, then how is it
described as a shroud?
Now for a little common sense. Have you ever seen a dead
person in the coffin at a wake? Their muscles in there
face no longer are held in place. Yet this image does not
show the face sagging as it does in a normal death.
Bottom line: This couldn't be Jesus because the beard has
not been ripped out, the face appears to be that of a live
person as the jowls aren't sagging, this image is of a good
looking person which Jesus was not. AND, since God would
know foolish and ignorant people would worship the cloth He
would never allow it to survive long enough for man to make it
into an idol.
And if you don't think there are foolish and ignorant people out
there let me just mention a few ... people who worship trees,
frogs, statues of just about everything, animals of all kinds,
the stars, the moon, the sun, and planets some that probably
don't exist ... there are alien worshipers, demon, and mystcal
and those who worship sex. You name it, man has perverted
it.
People worship Mary, and an image they think is an image of her
... even when it appears on the bite of an apple, or the side of
a building, or for God's sake on a potato chip.
The article you linked to said: Scientists have
never been able to explain how the image of a man's body,
complete with nail wounds to his wrists and feet, pinpricks
from thorns around his forehead and a spear wound to his
chest, could have formed on the cloth.
It's hard to explain that from a cloth that barely cover the
head they could get images of the nail prints in His hands and
feet? I don't think so! That part of the cloth would
have been soaked with myrrh
which would have hardened to the point that the cloth would
disintegrate if flattened out. The cloth that covered the
face would not be soaked in anything, and would be separate from
the shroud.
My thoughts are if you're an Italian scientists, living in
Italy, where most people are Catholic, you mom is Catholic, your
siblings are Catholic, your co-workers are Catholic, and
everyone you know is Catholic, are you going to say it isn't the
image of Jesus ... and have basically everyone in the country,
from your family to the barber, to everyone who lives there hate
you?
Or, will you just go along to get along. If this were the
burial cloth of Jesus and it is NOT, it is not holy, just as the
tomb is not holy, or any artifacts we might discover is
holy. Jesus is Holy.
There is no definitive proof of anything that Jesus ever
touched, except the streets of the Via
Dolorosa, is know by man. And that is just how Jesus
wants it.
Perhaps worshiping the King Jesus in Spirit and Truth as
He desires, just might be more important than seeking the cup He
drank out of.
WhodaThunk