I know Marilyn will speak for
herself, but I wanted to support her correct notion that
Jesus was born in the 6 BC to 5 BC range. While you
have cited the passage in Luke, naming a certain year of
Tiberius, it only REALLY identifies the year in which the
Word of the Lord came to John the Baptist in the
wilderness. The culmination of this particular
narrative is in verse 20 and it regards John the
Baptist's imprisonment, which is the more likely reason
for the date cited (marking the importance of his
imprisonment to the early Christians).
John 2:20 makes the statement that
the Temple had 'been in the building for 46 years' and
according to the narrative it was before the time of
Passover in that same year, not many days after Jesus turned
water into wine. This timeframe CERTAINLY marks
the beginning of Jesus' ministry (John 2:11). It
is well documented that Herod's major expansion (BUILDING)
of the Temple Mount platform and the expansion of the Temple
itself began in 19 BC. -19 + 46 = 27. There is
no year zero, so subtract 1 year and the ministry of Jesus
began in the 25-27 AD timeframe, depending on how
specifically long the 46 years was and what
the definition of a year was.
Jesus is declared the Christ (the
Messiah or the Annointed) around 30 years of age, as you
27 AD - 30 years -1(no year 0) =
4 BC Birthdate
26 AD - 30 years -1(no year 0) = 5 BC
25 AD - 30 years -1(no year 0) = 6 BC
This general timeframe then would
agree with the historical FACT that Herod died in 4
BC. While alive, upon his meeting with the
Magi, Herod decreed the deaths of any child 2 years and
under. Jesus then had to be born at least in the 5-6
BC range being 1-2 years old prior to the likely imminent
death of Herod, trying to secure the throne for
his own offspring.
point, I have established TWO Biblical and
historical facts confirming the pre- 4 BC birthdate of
Now lets look at the narrative in
KJV -  Know therefore and understand, [that] from the
going forth of the commandment to restore AND to
build Jerusalem unto the
Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and
threescore and two weeks: the street
shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous
times.  AND AFTER
threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off,
but not for himself: and the people of the prince that
shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and
the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end
of the war desolations are determined.
Notice there are TWO commandments,
one to RESTORE and one to BUILD. There are also TWO
decrees by Artaxerxes.
According to Ezra 7:6-16 Artaxerxes
makes a decree funding the restoration
of Jerusalem. The
seventh year (verse 8) of Artaxerxes has been well
established to be 457 BC. The other
decree of Artaxerxes regarding the building
of Jerusalem is established by Nehemiah
2:1-8 which is the twentieth year of Artaxerxes reign in 444
7 heptads +
62 heptads = 69 heptads (1 heptad = 7 years)
= 69 * 7 = 483 years
483 years from 457 BC or 69 'weeks' from the decree
to RESTORE unto
Messiah the Prince comes to 25 or 26 AD.
the ANNOINTED PRINCE which is the MEANING of MESSIAH, the
Spirit descended upon Him like a dove at His baptism when
he was about 30 years of age. "This is my Son in
whom I am well pleased". This is the
moment declared by GOD that Jesus was HIS SON, the
ANNOINTED PRINCE, exactly 69 weeks of
years after the decree to RESTORE Jerusalem in 457 BC by
Artaxerxes, just as Daniel's prophecy said.
second part: AFTER 62 weeks, the Messiah shall be cut-off,
but not for himself.
62 Weeks =
So here we
have the Bible declaring that AFTER
62 weeks (of years) from the declaration to BUILD Nehemiah's
Jerusalem wall in troubleous times, the Messiah would
be cut-off, but not for his own necessity.
From 444 BC
(second decree) plus 434 years is 10 BC.
The Bible says that sometime AFTER this 62 weeks that the
Messiah would be cut-off. If the Bible had intended
that this event would happen AFTER 63 weeks of years it
would have said, 'after sixty-three weeks'. So
between the 62nd full week and the 63rd week, the Messiah
would be CUT-OFF. Therefore, sometime between 10 BC
and 3 BC the Messiah would be cut-off but not for his own
necessity. The specific word Daniel uses for CUT-OFF
is Strongs H3772 karath.
It means to CUT-OFF a body part, specifically relating to
a covenant. In Jewish terms it means CIRCUMCISION in
accordance with the Hebrew's covenant with the Lord.
Here is the
Biblical use of CUT-OFF (H3772) relating to the act.
KJV -  Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut
off (H3772) the foreskin of her son.. .
Did the Son
of God have a necessity to demonstrate the covenant with
himself? Not for himself.
ALL of the law and was circumcised on the 8th day after
His birth (according to the Law). It EXACTLY fulfilled
Daniel's declaration that the Messiah would be cut-off
AFTER 62 weeks, an indication of His birthdate, NOT His
death. After all, He resurrected and NOTHING
was cut-off at the crucifixion. Jesus laid
down His own life and Jesus raised it back up
2:18-21 KJV -  Then answered
the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto
us, seeing that thou doest these things?  Jesus
answered and said unto them, Destroy this
temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this
temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three
days?  But he spake of the temple of his body.
another time, but I believe Jesus was specifically
born on Julian day #1719337, exactly 34 solar years
before His crucifixion.
YOU to ponder:
ministry was a 3 to 3.5 year ministry. So if both
the Bible and historical fact show Jesus was
declared His Son, Messiah the Prince by God at
His baptism 69 weeks of years after the first decree, then
why did the 70 weeks stop there at 69? Or did
it? It can be shown that there are 69.5 weeks,
or 486.5 ecllesiastical years (by the Hebrew Lunar year
average of 364 days divisible by 7) from the first decree
until the Crucifixion/Ressurrection.
until the 19th century that scholars and commentators
attributed Daniel 9:27 to anybody OTHER than Jesus
Christ. In the midst of a 7 (3.5 or so years) JESUS caused the sacrifice
and oblation to cease FOREVER. He
confirmed a NEW COVENANT. Upon His declaration "It
is finished", the Temple veil was torn and the stones
broken. What purpose could animal sacrifice and
other gifts upon that Temple alter, being OVERSPREAD with
corruptions and abominations, EVER serve again?
Jesus FINISHED THE TRANSGRESSION, MADE AN END OF SINS,
MADE RECONCILIATION FOR INIQUITY, ETC. Does that
sound familiar? It is the PURPOSE Daniel gives in 9:24 for the
70 WEEKS. All that there is
left to do is bring in an everlasting righteousness and
seal up the vision and the prophecy! I challenge you
to find ANYWHERE that the Great Tribulation is ANY
timeframe other than a general 3.5 year period (1260 days,
1290 days, 1335 days, 42 months). ALL that is left
after this Age of Grace is complete is the WRATH and
JUDGEMENT of GOD, which we Christians will NOT have to