Kari (23 Dec 2011)
"To pineman your answer re AC"




http://bible.cc/revelation/17-8.htm - The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.




The beast is a spirit, a pneuma that the false prophet breathes into the man who had been given 42 months to rule.  He dies, and resurrects with the spirit of Apollyon.  Take a look at the verse:  Rev 13:5

5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.


In my mind the phrase, 'and there was given unto him a mouth...' today could mean 'he was elected', so from that our current pres was elected in Nov 08 + 42 months is April/May 2012.  Apollyon inhabits him and he has 5 months to hurt the men of the Earth.  Rev 9:10.  There are many crop circles of late indicating Quetzalcoatl returning in May 2012.  Google Jaime Maussan and Quetzalcoatl crop circle.  Believe it or not, that ends on Yom Kippur 2012.  The start date of the week in Yom Teruah 2005.  That encompasses 7 years to the day and fulfills the next feasts in line to the day.  Now there is only one feast left: Feast of Tabernacles.  Zech 14 says during the millenium that is the only feast mentioned we are to observe and I think this is why: because it hasn't been fulfilled yet.  Rev 21:3 is when it's fulfilled.  Praise Yah.



Rev 13 explains it:


Rev 13:15 AndG2532 he had powerG1325 G846 to giveG1325 lifeG4151 unto theG3588 imageG1504 of theG3588 beast,G2342 thatG2443 theG3588 imageG1504 of theG3588 beastG2342 should bothG2532 speak,





From G4154; a current of air, that is, breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively a spirit, that is, (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, daemon, or (divine) God, Christ’s spirit, the Holy spirit: - ghost, life, spirit (-ual, -ually), mind. Compare G5590.






From G1503; a likeness, that is, (literally) statue, profile, or (figuratively) representation, resemblance: - image.


This makes sense because the 8th is one of the previous kings, (there are 7 kings total) and is going to destruction.

http://bible.cc/daniel/9-27.htm - And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

You have to go to the previous verse of Daniel 9 to see what the antecedent of he is, it's Messiah.  He is confirming what I believe is the 70-7's, and it tells that it is a full week.   There is a wide-spread assumption that there is a resuming of temple sacrifices.  I think the take away from the latter 1/2 of the verse is just He shall cause the slaughter to cease in the midst of the week, and the desolations will occur until the end. Kari



Dear John & Doves:

Unless one considers Chicago the bottomless pit I really can't see President Obama fulfilling the Revelation 17 verse 8 prophecy. The second reference is also a case of cognitive dissonance if one tries to impute President Obama as the one who is doing the confirming.

In the midst of the week he causes the sacrifice and oblation to cease. Where are these occurring.  Did President Obama and the U.S. Congress sneak in a new department called the Department of Rituals. And then in April 2012 he is going to withdraw these regulations?  Where were these rituals taking place.

I am under the impression that a Jewish temple needs to be built in order for these things to begin and then cease but perhaps I am taking the Scriptures too literally and God needs some help expressing Himself.