Rudy, you and I are very much on
the same page with regard to the Abrahamic land covenant. The only thing
I disagree with, is that I believe that the rapture of the Church will be the
next major prophetic event.
Re: Gina McCray
"Look for the Psalms 83 war and the
destruction of Damascus any day now. Then listen for the
announcement of the signing and confirming of the covenant with many.
Then look up and tune your ears for the sound of the trumpet."
I am listening for the sound of the
trumpet. I believe we are the "hidden ones" the crafty Arab
council is consulting against, along with Israel. In other
words, it looks like the Arabs will take the opportunity of
the rapture to come against Israel:
Psalm 83:3-4 They have taken crafty counsel
against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. They have
said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of
Israel may be no more in remembrance.
"I have to disagree with you that
we will be here for the psalm 83 war. This is because I believe the Psalm 83
and the Magog war is the same war because if you read it carefully you'll
notice that its speaking of the same invading northern armies that joins
alongside with Gog, although Gog is not specifically mentioned in Psalm 83.
Also, it declares that it is God Himself who will overthrow those invading
armies just like it states in Ezekiel 38 about the Gog war. Another point is
that in order for the arab armies to feel emboldened to attack Israel in such
a manner, that means the U.S. must have suffered a major military defeat that
will make it impossible for her to help defend Israel. Which in turn means
that such a war has to happen after the rapture takes place. Most likely at
the time of the fighting of that war, the U.S. will be spread sooooo very
thin, trying to defend ---South Korea from North Korea, -----Taiwan from China
---- Iran from getting the nukes ---- U.S. involved in so many wars at the
same time that the arabs will then seize the opportunity along with Russia to
advance upon Israel."
The Psalm 83 War is also covered in
Isaiah 14-17, Jeremiah 47-49, Ezekiel 35-36, Amos 1-2, Zephaniah 2, and
Zechariah 9. There is no mention of an army from the far north in any of
these passages, like there is in Ezekiel 38. Both wars have very
specific lists of which contries are involved in each war. Neither lists
has overlapping countries.
In Ezekiel 38-39, God alone supernaturally
destroys Gog and his armies with fire, brimestone and an earthquake. On
the other hand, we are told in Obadiah 1:18 that Israel will be the fire
that God uses to destroy Israel's immediate neighbors.
Another difference between these two wars, is
that Israel suffers great loss in Isaiah 17. Whereas, God takes all the
credit in Ezekiel 38, showing us that it is Him alone that saves Israel.
Ezekiel 39:3-4 shows us that Gog and army are taken out on Israel's
mountains before they can harm Israel. Clearly, these are two
I agree with your point about the rapture
emboldening the Arab counties. As I pointed out earlier, I believe
that Psalm 83:3-4 supports that notion.
I believe that the order of events are as
Psalm 83 War
Abrahamic land covenant
Gog and Magog War/Seal
The scriptural support for this timeline you
can find in my following studies:
Amy Van Gerpen