Michael Colunga (11 Dec 2010)
"RE: Timing of the Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38-39 Wars"

Hello, John and Doves,
The thief does not announce his coming, nor does he drop hints.
If you don't believe this, watch "Ocean's Eleven" again,
the original or the re-make.
Or check out "The Thomas Crown Affair," the original or re-make.
Or check out "Entrapment."
But watch the language.
In HaShem,
Mike C.
Amy VanGerpen (10 Dec 2010)
"Timing of the Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38-39 Wars"

Re: Rudy Wallace
Rudy, you and I are very much on the same page with regard to the Abrahamic land covenant.  The only thing I disagree with, is that I believe that the rapture of the Church will be the next major prophetic event.
Re: Gina McCray
"Look for the Psalms 83 war and the destruction of Damascus any day now.  Then listen for the announcement of the signing and confirming of the covenant with many.  Then look up and tune your ears for the sound of the trumpet."
I am listening for the sound of the trumpet.  I believe we are the "hidden ones" the crafty Arab council  is consulting against, along with Israel.   In other words, it looks like the Arabs will take the opportunity of the rapture to come against Israel:
Psalm 83:3-4 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
Re: Reddhy
"I have to disagree with you that we will be here for the psalm 83 war. This is because I believe the Psalm 83 and the Magog war is the same war because if you read it carefully you'll notice that its speaking of the same invading northern armies that joins alongside with Gog, although Gog is not specifically mentioned in Psalm 83. Also, it declares that it is God Himself who will overthrow those invading armies just like it states in Ezekiel 38 about the Gog war. Another point is that in order for the arab armies to feel emboldened to attack Israel in such a manner, that means the U.S. must have suffered a major military defeat that will make it impossible for her to help defend Israel. Which in turn means that such a war has to happen after the rapture takes place. Most likely at the time of the fighting of that war, the U.S. will be spread sooooo very thin, trying to defend ---South Korea from North Korea, -----Taiwan from China ---- Iran from getting the nukes ---- U.S. involved in so many wars at the same time that the arabs will then seize the opportunity along with Russia to advance upon Israel."
The Psalm 83 War is also covered in Isaiah 14-17, Jeremiah 47-49, Ezekiel 35-36, Amos 1-2, Zephaniah 2, and Zechariah 9.  There is no mention of an army from the far north in any of these passages, like there is in Ezekiel 38.  Both wars have very specific lists of which contries are involved in each war. Neither lists has overlapping countries.
In Ezekiel 38-39, God alone supernaturally destroys Gog and his armies with fire, brimestone and an earthquake.  On the other hand, we are told in  Obadiah 1:18 that Israel will be the fire that God uses to destroy Israel's immediate neighbors. 
Another difference between these two wars, is that Israel suffers great loss in Isaiah 17.  Whereas, God takes all the credit in Ezekiel 38, showing us that it is Him alone that saves Israel.  Ezekiel 39:3-4 shows us that Gog and army are taken out on Israel's mountains before they can harm Israel.  Clearly, these are two separate wars. 
I agree with your point about the rapture emboldening the Arab counties.  As I pointed out earlier, I believe that Psalm 83:3-4 supports that notion.  
I believe that the order of events are as follows:
Psalm 83 War
Abrahamic land covenant confirmed
Gog and Magog War/Seal Judgments
The scriptural support for this timeline you can find in my following studies:
Amy Van Gerpen