Clay Cantrell (7 Dec 2010)
"John Tng & Romans 8:23, The Redemption, the Wedding at Cana & the Drawing Out"

Tng & Readers -

John Tng in his article found here:

http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2010/2010_fleece.html

quotes this famous and exciting verse -

Romans 8:23
"And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of
the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the
adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body."

going here:

http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Database.asp?bnum=45&cnum=8&vnum=23

gives a word by word breakdown.

notice this phenom, which I do not understand, but see that it has happened:

total verse gematria = 16214

16214 = 2 x 11 x 11 x 67

Bible verse placement number = 28140

28140 = 2 x 2 x 3 x 5 x 7 x 67

both are based on the prime number 67. This may be a hint that counting
from 1967 gets you there. 2010 - 1967 = 43. Exodus based on 43 (43 x 10).

What I really noticed, though, is this ...

the word 'redemption' is Strong's 629 G "apolutrosis"

it's in-text value = 2041 (13 x 157)

Tng - you probably recognize that number, being one of the three values
for "antichrist".

so, from my perspective, that 2041 value is RIGHT WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
tied to the Resurrection/Rapture. The Resurrection/Rapture event
happens, and the AC is revealed (his clock starts) - both simultaneous!

notice also that a 263 word is in the list. 263 = base prime for another
AC value 1841.

this link gives you the data on 2041

http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Database.asp?SearchBy_Gematria=2041

notice that there are only three words with a total of 2041

1) G 0755 architriklinos / governor
from John 2:8
"And he saith unto them, DRAW OUT NOW, and bear unto the governor of the
feast. And they bare it."

2) G 0629 apolutrosis / redemption
from Romans 8:23 (noted above)

3) G 0500 antichristos / antichrist
from 1 John 4:3 (referenced above)
"And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the
flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye
have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."

the first verse is what is really notable, John 2:8.

I've long thought the Wedding at Cana as the Resurrection/Rapture
parable, and that concept is not original to me. the account is found in

The six stone water pots are six thousand years.

The changing of the water to wine, and the "drawing out" is the mortal

to immortal transformation - this would be the Redemption of our Body,
Romans 8:23, and then the "Catching Away" or "Gathering
Together" = the
Rapture.

The servants who bear the wine and do the service are angels.

The "governor" of the feast is the Father.

Of course, the Lord Jesus Christ commands the miracle to happen.

note at that link also the nine verses that have a total gematria value
of 2041

the first verse:

Genesis 30:19
"And Leah conceived again, and bare Jacob the sixth son."
her 'sixth' son may be a match to the 'six' stone water pots.

the second verse:
Leviticus 25:24
"And in all the land of your possession ye shall grant a REDEMPTION for
the land.
topical match to Romans 8:23

finally notice this ...

Matthew 13:48
"Which, when it was full, they DREW to shore, and sat down, and gathered
the good into vessels, but cast the bad away."

that word "drew" =

G0307 anabibazo with an in-text value =

823

Jesus is Lord.