Dear John, outer darkness is part of hell. I read your site everyday because it is most authoritative one on the web and has an exceptional list of contributors that really keep you in the know.  However, I have just recently discovered your site but since then I read it very assiduously.  Sabrina and Susan are exceptional and made me discover 5 doves.  Many compliments.   Andrea from Rome
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Welcome to the Doves, Andrea!
John