Re: Rudy Wallace
Rudy, you and I are
very much on the same page with regard to the Abrahamic land covenant.
The only thing I disagree with, is that I believe that the rapture of
the Church will be the next major prophetic event.
Re: Gina McCray
"Look for the Psalms
83 war and the destruction of Damascus any day now. Then listen
for the announcement of the signing and confirming of the covenant with
many. Then look up and tune your ears for the sound of the trumpet."
I am listening for the sound of the
trumpet. I believe we are the "hidden ones" the crafty Arab council
is consulting against, along with Israel. In other words, it looks
like the Arabs will take the opportunity of the rapture to come against
Israel:
Psalm 83:3-4 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
Re: Reddhy
"I have to disagree
with you that we will be here for the psalm 83 war. This is because I
believe the Psalm 83 and the Magog war is the same war because if you
read it carefully you'll notice that its speaking of the same invading
northern armies that joins alongside with Gog, although Gog is not
specifically mentioned in Psalm 83. Also, it declares that it is God
Himself who will overthrow those invading armies just like it states in
Ezekiel 38 about the Gog war. Another point is that in order for the
arab armies to feel emboldened to attack Israel in such a manner, that
means the U.S. must have suffered a major military defeat that will
make it impossible for her to help defend Israel. Which in turn means
that such a war has to happen after the rapture takes place. Most
likely at the time of the fighting of that war, the U.S. will be spread
sooooo very thin, trying to defend ---South Korea from North Korea,
-----Taiwan from China ---- Iran from getting the nukes ---- U.S.
involved in so many wars at the same time that the arabs will then
seize the opportunity along with Russia to advance upon Israel."
The Psalm 83 War is
also covered in Isaiah 14-17, Jeremiah 47-49, Ezekiel 35-36, Amos 1-2,
Zephaniah 2, and Zechariah 9. There is no mention of an army from the
far north in any of these passages, like there is in Ezekiel 38. Both
wars have very specific lists of which contries are involved in each
war. Neither lists has overlapping countries.
In Ezekiel 38-39, God alone
supernaturally destroys Gog and his armies with fire, brimestone and an
earthquake. On the other hand, we are told in Obadiah 1:18 that
Israel will be the fire that God uses to destroy Israel's immediate
neighbors.
Another difference between these two
wars, is that Israel suffers great loss in Isaiah 17. Whereas, God
takes all the credit in Ezekiel 38, showing us that it is Him alone
that saves Israel. Ezekiel 39:3-4 shows us that Gog and army are taken
out on Israel's mountains before they can harm Israel. Clearly, these
are two separate wars.
I agree with your point about the
rapture emboldening the Arab counties. As I pointed out earlier, I
believe that Psalm 83:3-4 supports that notion.
I believe that the order of events are as follows:
Rapture
Psalm 83 War
Abrahamic land covenant confirmed
Gog and Magog War/Seal Judgments
The scriptural support for this timeline you can find in my following studies:
Maranatha!
Amy Van Gerpen