Hi John and Doves....
 
Most of the time I don't even feel qualified to comment on some of the deep theological thinking that many of you are capable of.  And I thank God regularly for each of you but especially for those of you who stretch the rest of our minds with the understanding of His Word which God has Blessed you with.  I must say that Barry's answer to Bill's post re OSAS is the answer I'll be using the next time someone in my men's study group brings up this subject.
 
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2007/barrya1214.htm
 
Thank you for your clarification Barry.  It helped me.  I'm involved in the Congregational Care Ministry of our church and I'll be using it there as well.
 
YBIC
Jim O'Riley