TJ (6 Dec 2005)
"A MUST READ FOR ALL THE DOVES!!  THINK ABOUT THIS!!"


 
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2nd Timothy 4:1 I charge [thee] therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick (Living) and the dead  at his appearing and his kingdom;
 
2nd Timothy 4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
 
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Paul even though dead receives his reward on the day of the appearing of the righteous judge Jesus Christ. They that love his appearing are the living persons at the time of his return who witness it (The 2nd Coming).   So New Testament Paul receives his reward with the living at the time of Jesus appearing.
 
The same goes for Old testament Daniel
 
 12:1 But go thou thy way till the end [be]: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days
 
Daniel and Paul together receive the reward at the 2nd coming.  
 
Rev 22:11  He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
 
Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Finally in a wrap up. Paul who is a new testament believer and part of the Church says he will receive his crown at the appearing of Jesus Christ.
 
This doesnt go with the pretribulation rapture view.  The appearing is the 2nd coming. Paul receives his reward at the 2nd coming not at the beggining of the tribulation.  Furthermore this prooves the church is present at the appearing of Christ.   Because in the pretrib rapture view the new testament believer whether dead or living are raptured before the tribulation begins.   What do you think???