Jim Bramlett wrote: "proofs that the Bible is divinely inspired and totally reliable in every detail, historically and theologically."

Yes, and I use to believe this, too. However, I had a moslem friend challenge me: According to the Koran, the Bible has been altered and changed so that it is unreliable.

Well, I gave him an NIV bible and later a New Living translation version, and I also tried to use my New King James version all to convince him the Bible was TRUE. It had the opposite effect. He saw the footnotes saying "the best and most reliable manuscripts do not contain this verse" etc., and he said it proved that the Koran was correct!!

I said, "but 99% of the verses are intact from very old manuscripts and the ones with changes effect no central doctrine" etc. etc. (That is what we are told to say, but it is a measly defense).

However, no of this convinced him - after all I was admitting that 1% are error, we are just disputing how much error is in the modern Bible!!

Although we would love to agree that the Bible is  "totally reliable" in "every detail" it is unfortunately not true when we use modern Bible versions, such as the NIV, the RSV, the NKVJ!

There are many examples, but here are just a few:

The NIV makes Jesus a sinner for getting angry pursuant to  Matthew 5:22 because it leaves out "without a cause."

The NIV makes Jesus a l! iar in John 7:8 because it leaves out "yet" from "I go not up" to the feast - because he actually goes in verse 10.

The thief on the cross does not get saved by calling Jesus "Lord" in the NIV's Luke 23:42, neither does the woman caught in adultery call Jesus "Lord" in the NIV's John 8:11 [in fact, the NIV and NASB also put that whole passage into doubtful brackets!]

The NIV in Acts 8:37 has the Ethiopian baptized without his saying that he believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God: the verse of his confession is deleted.

Compare the Lord's Prayer in Luke 11:2-4 in the NIV with the King James Bible:

    2He said to them, "When you pray, say:
   " 'Father,[a]
   hallowed be your name,
   your kingdom come.[b]
    3Give us each day our daily bread.
    4Forgive us our sins,
      for we also forgive everyone who sins against us.[c]
   And lead us not into temptation.[d]' "

   1. Luke 11:2 Some manuscripts Our Father in heaven
   2. Luke 11:2 Some manuscripts come. May your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
   3. Luke 11:4 Greek everyone who is indebted to us
   4. Luke 11:4 Some manuscripts temptation but deliver us from the evil one


So the NIV (despite the footnotes) is saying that the best manuscripts give us a prayer to a god who is not in heaven, nor has a will in heaven, nor does the prayer ask for deliverance from the evil one.

It is a prayer that could be prayed to Satan!

[Did you know that the NIV is published by Harper Collins' who also publishes the Satanic Bible!].

The NIV in Luke 4:8 deletes ! "get thee behind me Satan" and in Luke 4:4 it even  deletes "by every word of God."

See that: it deletes "every word" of God!! The NIV says that "every" single word is not important, only a vague and broad "message" that "good, godly scholars agree to be in the "oldest and best" manuscripts."

There are THOUSANDS of such examples in the NIV because over 64,000 words have been removed or added  - about one word per every eleven has been removed!

The "New King James" - is also full of changes and departures from God's holy word, although less so than the NIV. But it still corrupts the word of God - for example, in 2 Cor. 2:17 "corrupt the word of God" is changed to "peddling" the word of God - which is not the same thing (is it OK to corrupt as long as you don't peddle?).

The New King James has been caught changing many essential verses, such as Acts 4:27 where it called Jesus God's "servant" rather than his "child", and it stated that Christ "emptied" himself rather than "humbled"- and when these 1979 readings were exposed Thomas Nelson publishers changed them. Thomas Nelson was also exposed as having a satanic trinity symbol on the cover of their NKJV and so they have recently stopped using it. The true agenda is being hid as it is being exposed. They also changed "hell" to "hades" and thus softening this key doctrine.

In the NKJV's James 5:16 it commands us confess our "transgressions" to one another - just like a roman confessional booth. (The AV reads confess "faults" which is a general term - not specific sins).

The NKJV has also capitalized "He" in 2 Thes. 2:7 to force the implication that it is the Holy Ghost - however this type of capitalization is not in any Greek text.!

The NKJV has also changed words in Revelation, despite the stern warning that anyone who deletes or adds to that book is damned, see Revelation 22:18-19.

The point of this information is to say "Wake Up Christian! - Beware the modern Bible versions!"

Ignoring these problems may feel better, but that doesn't mean that the non-Christians are ignoring it. They see these problems and it is hurting our witness.

The modern Bible versions cast serious doubt on the Bible - THEY ARE THE PROBLEM!

When I finally studied the issue, and came to the firm conviction that God worked a total miracle in 1611 - he worked to preserve his word in English as the AV - Authorized Version of the Bible, the King James. It is in fact a miracle of God in preservation according to Psalm 12 -a divine promise. Every single word in the King James Bible IS THE WORD OF GOD without any errors. When a person finally  understands that and belie! ves it - that is when he really "believes" the Bible.

Some people say, "I believe in the infallible original Greek autographs" - but these no longer exist. Therefore they say the believe in something that is meaningless - no one can have no assurance what the original says unless they believe in a miracle of absolute preservation.

There is no such thing as "the Greek says" because there is no single Greek original Bible - there are many Greek copied manuscripts, each one with differences.

There is no such thing as "the Greek means" because there are no Greek dictionaries from 33 A.D. that would give us the meanings of words in English.

Is "Strong's' Dictionary" our final authority? Strong invented his definitions in the late nineteenth century - why should we let him tell us the King James Bible is wrong?

The appeal to the Greek and Hebrew i! s a clever lie to get people to doubt the Bible in their hands (the King James) and to trust scholarly men instead - and some of those men weren't even Christians (such as Thayer who wrote "Thayer's Lexicon", who was a Unitarian).

It is time for every single Christian to examine this issue, or stop forever saying the Bible is reliable when they quote from modern versions that obviously are NOT RELIABLE.

Please apply Acts 17:11 to this post: and I trust the Holy Spirit to confirm his word or not, from the scriptures (not from our carnal emotions).

Matt

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Yes, I am sure.

I am not going to get into the old "KJV-only" debate. I have seen the subject debated by the best minds both sides have to offer and the arguments from the KJV-only proponents were woefully inept. I have also read Gail Riplinger's infamous book, "New Age Bible Versions," and find it full of errors, as have Bible scholars.

You had better listen to the Holy Spirit than to a Muslim, who we know has it all wrong and whose mind is clouded by the father of lies.

Jim