Kay (17 Dec 2005)
"The Magic that is Jesus and 11's"


 
I have greatly enjoyed reading the posts of John, Bob, and Eric (as well as Vernon Jenkins) concerning gematria and especially the prime magic square.  Being a "non-math" person (English degree/math dummy) I try hard to follow it all, and can use all the "interpretation" I can get as to the meaning of the findings.  Such as, I wondered if the connection to Bob's findings concerning Abraham Lincoln, JFK and George W. Bush point to the possibility that Bush may be assassinated while in office. (?)
 
But, with that said, I noticed that the prime magic square adds up to 111 in all directions, which I find fascinating.  As you may remember I have posted of seeing the 1:11 and 11:11 constantly of late, as have others.  It has been a bewilderment to me what the Lord is trying to say with this, beyond 1:11 being a time, and 11:11 being a date as the Lord spoke to me.  I never saw this as taken literally as 11-11-05 at 1:11am or pm for example.  I understood it to be more of an "appointed time" or an appointment, etc.  So, I was very excited to see the prime magic square and it's results.  Could it be that the 1:11 (as it is expressed on clocks and in scripture verses) is the 111 of the prime magic square--(signature of Jesus Christ), meaning this is the TIME of Jesus Christ? 
 
 
  Jhn 7:6 Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready.
  Jhn 7:8 Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come.
 
Since Jesus ascended to Heaven and sitteth at the right hand of the Father, He is outside of time as we know it.
Do any of you take it that 111 could mean that this is His way of announcing His soon return to time--our time?  The soon coming end of the time of the gentiles?  His signature to us before time began was written in a similar way--(Gen 1:1 = In the beginning God...)  I would be interested to know your thoughts.  Also, I love the way you can multiply 111 and get such glorious results, i.e.: 111 x 5= 555 (Grace), 111 x 8= 888 (Jesus), etc.
 
And in addition to all this, I have wondered for months about the 11:11.  In trying to research this, I found it odd that so many New Agers are experiencing the 1111 phenomenon as well as other Christians.  So many times I have wanted to wait before posting about all the opposite correlations I have been hit with.  One New Ager refers to 1111 as a doorway.  It's odd but the opposites I have been finding could be thought of as 2 doorways.  Such as:
 
   11          ____  :    ____           11_____
Good                                       Evil
Truth                                       Deception
Spiritual                                   Carnal
Saved                                      Lost
Grace                                      Punishment
Life                                         Death
Light                                       Darkness 
Wise                                       Foolish  
Eyes to see                              Blinded 
Sheep                                     Goats  
Obedient                                 Rebellious 
Blessings                                 Curses   
Comfort/hope                           Terror    
Christ                                      Antichrist    and the list goes on and on...In my mind's eye, I keep seeing it as:
 
 
    11                         :                               11
 
(Redeemed)----------(Valley of Decision)--------------(Apocalypse)
  (Church)                 (Tribulation/Jacob's Trouble/     (Wrath of God)
  (Age of Grace)         Daniel's 70th week)                 (Day of the Lord)
 
 
  Joe 3:14  Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD [is] near in the valley of decision.
 
"Decision", Strong's # 02742 ( charuwts {khaw-roots'} or charuts {khaw-roots'} means gold, diligent, threshing instrument, sharp, sharp things, wall Dan 9:25--pure, see Amos 1:3. to cut into, to sharpen, cut in, dug, hence the ditch of a fortified city, Dan 9:25, eagerly desired by men, that which is dug out,something decided, hence judgment Joel 4:14, in the valley of judgment, i.e. punishment.
To me, the Tribulation is what divides the two 11's.  The Tribulation or the time of Jacob's Trouble is the middle ground between those who are sold out to Jesus Christ the Messiah (The Bride of Christ) and those who reject Him.
Once the Church (Bride) is gone, God will turn His attention once again to the redemption of Israel, His chosen people. Unsaved and apostate Gentiles will also find themselves in the Tribulation, where God through His mercy will give them one last chance to turn to Him and be saved.  It is not His will that ANY should perish!  The Tribulation is a time of ultimate testing and refining.  Those of us who have accepted His sacrifice and atonement for our sins once and for all have realized in our lives that we have tribulation when our faith is tested, and we have overcome sin and temptation through faith in Him.  Those who "believe" in Him (just as the Devil does) but have never lived for Him will discover they too will have to face testing and tribulation.  They will be weighed in the balances. Some will turn to Him and "love not their lives unto death" and be redeemed (those who have washed their robes  Rev 7:14 ); some will run away from the gospel in an effort to save themselves (Mark of the Beast), and some will just reject Him, having been always "of the devil," but ALL those undecided will find themselves in this Valley of Decision during the Tribulation that will determine their fate.  The evil ones have been evil from the beginning and have always been destined for the Wrath of God in the Apocalypse. They do not need to make a decision for or against Christ, but they will be in the Tribulation to perscute the undecided.  Perhaps this 11:11, this doorway of choice, this date---is the world's date to meet their Creator God.  For the Church, our great hope is to meet Him in the air at the rapture.  The undecided will meet Him in the Valley of Decision, and the evil ones of the world will meet their Creator in the valley of Death.
 
 
 The breastplate of the Old Covenant was for making decisions.  http://www.fivedoves.com/revdrnatch/breastplate.htm
 
The time of grace is NOW, the Valley of Decision (Tribulation) is soon coming upon us and will last 3.5 years, followed by The Wrath of God on the heathen for the last 1260 days.
 
Perhaps as 11:11 being a date--perhaps this could be viewed as 11 x 11=121 ?
 
I'd be interested to know anyone's ideas about this.
 
Kay