Tracy Nordin (9 Aug 2011)
"To: Marty Shrader"


 

Marty Wrote:
Before you jump the gun, Tracy, I'd be a little more humble, and A LOT better informed.  You're quoting Daniel 9:27 from the NIV which is not a faithful translation of the original Hebrew.

The Hebrew word used in Daniel 9:27 is shikkutzim which UNEQUIVOCALLY REFERS TO "ABOMINATIONS" [more than one, PLURAL].

This is NOT referring to the "abomination of desolation" which Jesus prophesied about in Matthew 24:15 and which the Antichrist will commit, but to the ABOMINATIONS (plural) that were going on in the second temple, THE SAME TEMPLE Jesus threw the moneychangers out of.

Hence, Jesus DOES NOT commit the "abomination of desolation" but rather ALLOWS THE TEMPLE TO BECOME DESOLATE (destroyed) because of the ABOMINATIONS (plural) that were going on in it.

THAT'S what Daniel 9:27 is speaking about.

The King James Version provides an accurate rendering of this verse:

"And he (Jesus) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the middle of the week he (Jesus) shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he (Jesus) shall make it (the temple) desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured on the desolate". 

Thank you,

Marty Shrader

 

Marty,

First off, Robert made a request to read the URL and if anyone found any errors to let him know. That is what I did. Everyone is welcome to their own interpretation of scripture. Studying the Word is one of my favorite things to do. I am always open to different interpretations, but I will definitely check them out to see if they hold up with the rest of the Word. Also, since you do not know me, I do take offense at your personal attack, stating that I am not humble and not well informed. I guess you are entitled to your opinion. That said, I do not agree with the original author’s interpretation of Daniel 9:27, nor do I agree with yours. I found the following online, and I could not have stated it any better:


If you really want to build a Biblical system describing the end-times and you fail to include Daniel 9:27, you will have no system at all.  It is the failure to understand and apply Daniel 9:27 that is the root cause for failure in other false end-times systems of thought.

A total of seventy (70) "WEEKS" are determined for "thy people", Daniel's people, the Jews.  Sixty nine (69) of these "WEEKS" have already happened.  Because these sixty nine (69) "WEEKS" that have ALREADY happened lasted a total of 483 years, we know how long the 70th "WEEK" will be.

The reason we know that the 70th "week" lasts 7 years is that the 7 "weeks" and 62 "weeks" (a total of 69 "weeks"), which have already happened, lasted exactly 483 years = 69 weeks  X  7 years/week.  The Messiah made His triumphant entry into the City of Jerusalem (Mathew 21:8) exactly 483 years after the commandment of Artaxerxes to rebuild the temple, March 14, 445 B.C. Subsequently He was "cutoff", crucified as recorded in Daniel 9:26.  Please note that He was crucified AFTER the 7 weeks and the 62 weeks.  That is, He was crucified AFTER the 69th week.  

This whole prophecy (of Daniel) was made in 538 B.C. while the Jews were in Babylon at the end of their 70-year captivity.  The 1st 69 "weeks" were fulfilled exactly as predicted and the 70th "week" will also.

Here is the TOTAL SEVENTY "WEEKS"
      Daniel 9:24   SEVENTY WEEKS are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 
 
Here are the Sixty nine (7 + 62) "WEEKS" that have already Happened
        Daniel 9:25   Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be SEVEN WEEKS , and THREESCORE and TWO WEEKS: the street shall be built  again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 
 
        Daniel 9:26   And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.  

Here is the ONE "WEEK" that Remains
        Daniel 9:27   And he shall confirm the covenant with many for ONE WEEK : and in the MIDST of the WEEK he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.  

Since God said he would deal with the Jews as a NATION for SEVENTY "WEEKS" and He promised to regather them nationally in the future in preparation for His Coming, then, God plans to deal with the NATION Israel in the future for ONE "WEEK" before He returns.  To say that ONE WEEK of Daniel 9:27 has already happened (since God says He will regather Israel as a NATION) is to say there will be 71 WEEKS.  To say that the week WILL NOT happen in the future is to say there are less than SEVENTY "WEEKS."

Since we already know (from the 69 weeks that HAVE happened) that a "WEEK" is SEVEN YEARS, then, God must have a future dealing with the NATION Israel for SEVEN years.


What did Jesus Christ Himself have to say about this?

In Mathew 24:3 Jesus was asked a question- " ...what shall be the sign of thy coming and of the end of the world?"
Jesus Answers the Question About TIMING of the End of the Age
Matthew 24:15   When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation , spoken of by Daniel the prophet , stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Matthew 24:16   Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Matthew 24:17   Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

Matthew 24:18   Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

Matthew 24:19   And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

Matthew 24:20   But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

Matthew 24:21   For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Here we have Jesus making a direct reference to Daniel 9:27

 

It cannot be any clearer,

 

Tracy