Rowina (17 Aug 2011)
"To Eliane on your post about sexuality"

I agree with your post.

In regard to "gay" people, the most important step is for them to realize that their
condition is a defect.  Sometimes it seems wrong to call it a sin, for many of these
people did not choose their path.  Some were dragged into it by childhood trauma,
and others may have (I say may have because we do not fully understand endocrinology)
hormonal defects.  It IS a sin, and we were all born with a sin nature, but think about
calling it a defect so that we can view it with less passion.

Even if we do not call it sin, it is not unkind to call it a defect.

the primary problem with gay relations at the current time is the effort to call this
defect "normal".

When talking to such a person, who has this defect, it could be Christian kindness
to point out to them that we ALL have defects, as you have said, Eliane.

I once went to a church ( a relatively good one) where the rector was gay.  I did
not know he was gay, and even made a point to find out if he was gay before we
(my husband and I) began to attend this church.  The person I asked about this
lied to me, to protect the rector.    This was foolish and unkind, to lie in this way.

However, there I was, finding out that my rector was gay, and knowing that I liked
this rector a lot.  This rector was above average in the Episcopal church in adhering
to the fundamentals of the faith.  He believed in the basic truths of our faith, including
the resurrection, which some deny (I know, no excuse at all for that!)  

I told this rector, whom I will call Father A, that I had an inborn error of metabolism,
which had a diagnosis code, etc, and which had changed my life completely.  I said
that I did not call my Inborn Error of Metabolism "normal", and that he should not
call his defect normal either.  He listened carefully, and who knows, he may have
accepted this thought.  He did not commit to accepting it, but he and I remained
friends and even close co-workers in combating apostasy in the congregation.

So this may all seem ridiculous to some who read it, but I assure you it is a problem
which real Christians (those who have accepted Christ as savior) face, not just a
fringy sin which is worse than most.

As you say, Eliane, we all fight carnality in one form (or two or three).  We will not
be transformed completely until we go to Heaven.  God's grace can help us, in the
meanwhile, to deal with the sins/defects which we have, and sometimes overcome
them.  whenever we overcome them, it is cause for celebration.

We live now in a knot of sin which we cannot escape but we pray to escape it
at every moment, and to finally be free.

Maranatha, big time Maranatha!