From: Marilyn AgeeRe: Fay (9 May 2011)
"The 4 Horses of the Apocalypse"Hi:> > The 'seal' signs are right after the horses. Do they have a 'near and far' meaning as well? Let's put our heads together.The seals introduce the horses. I don't think the seals or horses have two meanings.The seals, starting in Rev 6, can't be broken until Christ is given the seven-sealed book in Rev 5, after the First-Trump Rapture takes place in Rev 4:1. The 7-sealed book is probably the Title Deed of the Earth.FIRST: THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE ON THE DAY OF CHRISTRev 4:1 says, "a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a TRUMPET talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee THINGS WHICH MUST BE HEREAFTER" (i.e., after the Rapture).Of this Rapture, I Thess 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP OF GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."SECOND: CHRIST IS GIVEN THE SEVEN-SEALED BOOKRev 5:1 says, "I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne A BOOK written within and on the backside, SEALED WITH SEVEN SEALS."Rev 5:6,7 says, "I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders (i.e., the 12 patriarchs and 12 apostles of Israel), stood a Lamb (representing Christ) as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne."THIRD: JESUS OPENS THE FIRST SEALRev 6:1,2 says, "I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow (toxon, plain fabric, i.e., he is a man of the cloth, a religious leader, probably a Pope); and a CROWN was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."The fabric is a signal that this man is a religious leader. In God's picture book of the Gospel of Christ in the sky, Cepheus, representing Christ the King of kings, is holding aloft a piece of cloth to show that he is a religious leader.
Mt 7:15 warns us to "Beware of false prophets (plural, i.e., the two beasts of Rev 13), which come to you in sheep's clothing (wool), but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
The Pope's badge of office, the symbol of his top authority, is the woolen pallium worn over his liturgical dress. It is a woolen sash with some crosses on it. That is his "sheep's clothing".
It sounds to me like both beasts of Rev 13 will be Popes. Of the False Prophet, verse 12 says, "And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."The first beast of Rev 13 is the Antichrist. He comes to full power in Rev 6 after the Rapture of Rev 4:1. However, he is already in office when the Rapture takes place.The setting of Rev 17 is when the Rapture takes place. Verse 14 says of Christ, "he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that ARE WITH HIM are called, and chosen, and faithful."Rev 17:10 says, "And there are seven kings: five are fallen (Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece, Holy Roman Empire), and ONE IS (Ecclesiastical Roman Empire), and the other (Babylon III) is not yet come."Rev 13:1-10 says, "I stood upon the sand of the sea (i.e., the Mediterranean), and saw a beast (i.e., the great red dragon) rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads THE NAME OF BLASPHEMY (i.e., Pontifex Maximus, the title claimed by all 7 heads, rulers of Tower of Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece, Holy Roman Empire, Ecclesiastical Roman Empire and Babylon III). 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard (i.e., Greece, Dan 7:6), and his feet were as the feet of a bear (Media-Persia, Dan 7:5), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (i.e., Babylon II, Dan 7:4): and the dragon (Satan) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his (the great red dragon's) heads (the Holy Roman Empire) as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed (it became the Ecclesiastical Roman Empire): and all the world wondered after the beast (the Pontifex Maximus). 4 And they worshipped the dragon (Satan) which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast (the Pontifex Maximus), saying, Who is like unto the beast? (no one) who is able to make war with him? (no one) 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and BLASPHEMIES (including claiming to be the Pontifex Maximus, the High Priest, when Christ is our High Priest); and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them (the wise virgins) that dwell in heaven (i.e., theFirst-Trump Rapture has already taken place). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (including the foolish virgins), and to overcome them: and POWER WAS GIVEN HIM OVER ALL KINDREDS, AND TONGUES, AND NATIONS. (That is the offer Jesus turned down) 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints."Of the time when Satan tempted Jesus, Mt 4:8-10 said, "Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9 And saith unto him, ALL THESE THINGS WILL I GIVE THEE, IF THOU WILT FALL DOWN AND WORSHIP ME. 10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." The Antichrist will accept Satan's offer.THE POINT OF THE SWORD OF THE LORD WILL BE AIMED AT BABYLON, NEAR THE EUPHRATES
Jdg 7:18 says, "When I blow with a trumpet, I and all that are with me, then blow ye the trumpets also on every side of all the camp, and say, THE SWORD OF THE LORD, and of Gideon."
THE SWORD OF THE LORD will hit Earth on the Feast of Trumpets.
Jdg 7:20 says, "And the three companies blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and held the lamps in their left hands, and the trumpets in their right hands to blow withal: and they cried, The SWORD OF THE LORD, and of Gideon."
Isa 66:16 says, "For by fire and BY HIS SWORD will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many."
Isa 34:6 says, "The SWORD OF THE LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea."
Jer 12:12 says, "The spoilers are come upon all high places through the wilderness: for the SWORD OF THE LORD shall devour from the one end of the land even to the other end of the land: no flesh shall have peace."
Jer 25:29 says, "For, lo, I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name, and should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished: for I WILL CALL FOR A SWORD UPON ALL THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH, saith the LORD of hosts."
Jer 25:31 says, "A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth; for the LORD hath a controversy with the nations, he will plead with all flesh; he will give them that are wicked to THE SWORD, saith the LORD."
Jer 46:10 says, "For this is the DAY OF THE LORD GOD OF HOSTS, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for THE LORD GOD OF HOSTS hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates."
Jer 47:6 says, "O thou SWORD OF THE LORD, how long will it be ere thou be quiet? put up thyself into thy scabbard, rest, and be still."
Jer 50:35 says, "A SWORD is upon the Chaldeans, saith the LORD, and upon the inhabitants of Babylon, and upon her princes, and upon her wise men."
Here is the verse I saw a rectangle of light on in a darkened room. Jer 50:2 says, "Declare ye among the nations, and publish, and set up a standard; publish, and conceal not: say, Babylon is taken, Bel is confounded, Merodach is broken in pieces; her idols are confounded, her images are broken in pieces." That will come true when the SWORD OF THE LORD hits Earth on the Day of God's Wrath.
I don't know exactly how much time is assigned to each of the 2nd and 3rd horses, but it looks like the reign of the first beast lasts the first half of the Tribulation. Therefore, maybe two more horses, representing war and famine, will follow the revealing of the Antichrist closely. We are already seeing food prices increase dramatically. Both floods and drought are wiping out crops. Wheat does not grow well in a dry field. Corn is being used to manufacture ethanol instead of being used for food, a big mistake. Many fields that used to grow other food items have been converted to corn for ethanol. Radiation poisoning is ruining crops in Japan.
Rev 6:3-6 says, "And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. 4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. 5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny (i.e., representing a day's wages), and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine."
The breaking of the 4th seal will introduce the Satan-possessed False Prophet Mid-Trib.
Rev 6:7,8 says, "And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. 8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death (i.e., the False Prophet), and Hell (i.e., Satan) followed with him. And power was given unto THEM over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."
So the first beast rides forth on the white horse at the beginning of the Tribulation. The second beast rides forth on the pale horse Mid-Trib.
> > The 'seal' signs are right after the horses.
When a seal is broken, a horse comes forth. They come together.
Fay (9 May 2011)
"The 4 Horses of the Apocalypse"
Hi John and Doves,Okay - if our LORD gave us a heads up re the eerie image of the pale ( green ) horse during those riots in Egypt, then that tells us that these horses represent more than one meaning. Just like each prophecy has a 'near' and 'far' meaning. I'm sure that another erudite Dove has posted this before, but I didn't take as much notice as I should of. Let's start from the premise that the green horse, witnessed in the Egyptian riots, represented the destruction of the rise of Islam. It was no accident, fellow Doves - we all saw it. Therefore, we were given a hint as to what the other horses represent - not so?? We have to think of this prophecy in terms of the human race over time - not just in the end days.My take:- 1) The white horse represents the rise of the 'white race' - the 1st world - capitalism etc. Think about it. It makes sense.6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.2) The red horse represents the rise of communism - Russia, China, Germany ( in the old days ) Cuba etc. Given power to kill and destroy etc. Take peace away from the world and cause utter mayhem.6:3 "And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see." "And there went out another horse [that was] red: and [power] was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword."3) The black horse represents famine, disease etc. Does Africa and the 3rd world spring to mind?? There is a great deal of agriculture and mining going on in Africa and other 3rd world countries. But who does it benefit??? The ' White Horse' crowd !! The people of the 3rd world have suffered starvation and deprivation for years. The ' oil and wine' of the the vineyards of the 3rd world have always been exported to the the 1st world countries. It's interesting that these horses are in order of the 1st world, 2nd world, 3rd world..........etc.6:5-6 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand." "And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine".4) This horse represents Islam. Of this, I have no doubt. The LORD showed us this in that Egyptian riot clip. Not only that - the color of Islam is green. We see their flags, on telly, all the flipping time. The ' fourth part of the earth' is the exact replica of 'the beast' picture over the map of the Middle East with north Africa included.6:7-8 "And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see." "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."Doves, in view of this, it is my firm belief that the 4 horses of the Apocalypse have been set loose. All aspects of the human condition are represented in these 4 horses. The last one being the pale (green) horse of Islam. Obama has set this marauding horde free. With his anti Christ policies. Islam and it's jihad destruction, has been let loose upon the world.Couple all those together with the 'seal' signs we are seeing and we are being given a VERY clear idea of where we are. The 'seal' signs are right after the horses. Do they have a 'near and far' meaning as well? Let's put our heads together.YSICFay