Gordon Smith (30 Aug 2011)
"RE: Lewis Brackett - 2 thess2:3 its not a falling away"

Re: Lewis Brackett (27 Aug 2011)
"2 thess2:3 its not a falling away"

The correct translation of 2 thess2:3  is departure/rapture of the church not a falling away from the faith. the KJV is wrong there.

I strongly disagree with you on this matter. I believe that the King James Bible is the sole Authoritative English Bible translation. It is the only Bible that states Authorized Version. I believe that all the newer versions or as I would say it perverted versions are leading men astray and have seen it time and time again, in the lives of believers. Many of the other translations have scripture removed or altered or bracketed, changing God’s word. Some Bibles like the NIV have whole scriptures missing and in fact has the equivalent of ten pages of scripture missing and we know what God’s word says about that in the very last book of the New Testament.


God’s word says in Vs.1 of 2 Thes ….we beseech you brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering (rapture) together unto him, that ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word , nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (what day? The second coming which precedes with our gathering together (rapture) shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;


The Greek word give for falling away is apostasia, which clearly means apostasy. Let us not be fooled that even the word departure can mean a moving a way from sound doctrine and being led astray! The word departure in Greek is analusis which is used in 2 Tim 4:6 and then in Acts 20:9 the word aphixis. Neither of these words are used in 2 Thes. 2:3.


As far as I’m concerned we know that, already the first of these two things that precedes our gathering together has already happened and continues to do so. Many of us that have posted on Doves believe that Obama is the man of sin (lawlessness), and have watched in shock how he has dismantled the US of A, promising to bring change, that he has done, but not what people thought they would get! How he has been given recognition for doing little if nothing, how he has mesmerised many, and how many have fallen to his charm and treat him as a messiah. So if he is the Antichrist, which I believe he is, then we who are watching do not have too long to wait for our gathering together to him.    





2Th 2:1  Now1161 we beseech2065 you,5209 brethren,80 by5228 the3588 coming3952 of our2257 Lord2962 Jesus2424 Christ,5547 and2532 by our2257 gathering together1997 unto1909 him,846

2Th 2:2  That ye5209 be not3361 soon5030 shaken4531 in575 mind,3563 or3383 be troubled,2360 neither3383 by1223 spirit,4151 nor3383 by1223 word,3056 nor3383 by1223 letter1992 as5613 from1223 us,2257 as that3754 the3588 day2250 of Christ5547 is at hand.1764

2Th 2:3  Let no3361 man5100 deceive1818 you5209 by2596 any3367 means:5158 for3754 that day shall not come, except3362 there come2064 a falling away646 first,4412 and2532 that man444 of sin266 be revealed,601 the3588 son5207 of perdition;684







Feminine of the same as G647; defection from truth (properly the state), (“apostasy”): - falling away, forsake.





Departing, Departure


"an unloosing" (as of things woven), "a dissolving into separate parts" (Eng., "analysis"), is once used of "departure from life," 2Ti_4:6, where the metaphor is either nautical, from loosing from moorings (thus used in Greek poetry), or military, from breaking up an encampment; cp. kataluo in 2Co_5:1 (cp. DEPART, No. 16).



most frequently "an arrival" (akin to aphikneomas, see COME), also signifies a "departure" (apo, "from," hikneomai, "to come:" etymologically, to come far enough, reach; cp. hikanos, "sufficient"), the "departure" being regarded in relation to the end in view. Thus Paul speaks of his "departing," Act_20:29.



Gordon Smith