The "bots", as reported on George Ure's "Urban Survival" and also on Cliff High's
site (he's the botsman) consider four days in November, starting on November 8,
to be the time when a long wave of buildup breaks into action or expression.
They expect some intense action to break at that time, continuing into December.
This could be war, natural disaster, etc.  They are very pessimistic about mankind's
survival at this time.  They are not Christian, so discussion of rapture timing isn't part
of this.

I am not discouraged about Bruce Baber's thought that the rapture might be
next spring on June 1, Ascension Day, which is a Christian holiday and therefore,
I think, appropriate for the rapture, although any day is appropriate.  I am among
those struggling just to get from day to day, but I feel that June 1, 2011 is right around
the corner.  We have struggled a long time, that much more time is small,
although I know some people are right on the edge of not being able to hang on.
For them I pray that Lord Jesus will come as the Good Shepherd and pull those
struggling sheep out of the "ravine" where they are just clinging!

Mariel