Hi Barry and Doves,In brief, the answer to your question about 8:00 p.m. where? is EST, the EXACT SAME MINUTE that Obama was confirming his covenant with millions and milions of people to change the United States, and to CHANGE THE WORLD. The details about this amazing, and conclusive discovery are given in more detail below by Kevin Heckle.Below is the last part only, of Kevin Heckle's excellent Five Doves post, on Dec. 14, 2009, giving us ONE MORE CONFIRMATION OF OCT. 29, 2008, BEING THE FIRST DAY OF THE FINAL 7 YEARS. It is about the book of Revelation and Biblical astronomy, which is NOT astrology. I trust that you will go to www.fivedoves.com and read the entire post, and also the entire post of his, on Dec. 12th. Both posts are at the very bottom of the page of each day's letters. I am not educated enough to fully understand, as you may not be, everything that is presented in these two posts. However, the conclusion, is what is fascinating, in both posts. The conclusions that one should easily reach are, that we now have EVEN MORE CONCLUSIVE AND VERY COMPELLING AND IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE OF OBAMA BEING THE ANTICHRIST AND THE FINAL 7 YEARS STARTING ON OCT. 29, 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please read the following, and the entire two posts, carefully and prayerfully. The astronomical signs are from Revelaion, Chapter 12, which is where the Beast of the Sea (the Antichrist), rises to power:
Both representations of Satan, Draco and Serpens stalk Virgo, waiting to DEVOUR her man-child. A LINE ‘cast down’ from Draco’s mouth-devourer (star Nu Draconis) through the Serpens’ mouth-devourer (star Gamma Serpentis) extending to below the sea (equator), also intersects with the tip of the tail of Hydra – Hy58 (beast rising from the sea). It was a surprise to me that the line intersected the tip of the tail of Hydra. The tip of the tail would represent the BEGINNING of the BEAST RISING FROM the SEA!!!! However, the more spectacular intersect is with the moon’s orbit on this date and time. The line from Draco’s mouth, through Serpens’ mouth touching the tip of Hydra’s tail, crosses the moon’s orbit EXACTLY where the NEW MOON was (14h 58min 25 sec RA and -22* 7.7’ declination) on the same date and time the sun had fully ‘clothed’ Virgo!!!! I checked to see if the same alignment occurred frequently. I manually checked from 1988 through 2028 and the only occurrence of this alignment intersecting with the Draco-Serpens-Hydra line was the date and time: 10/30/2008 00:00:00 UTC which is October 29, 2008 at 8:00 PM EST!!!! Make your own conclusions as to the timing of BHO’s ‘covenant with many’. I believe the alignment is a rare event. There are a few occasions where moon is in the general vicinity during that time-frame of 1988-2028. However, I don’t believe there is an occurrence during that time in which the moon is both below the sun’s ecliptic (thus below her left foot) AND a right ascension greater than 14 hours 43 minutes of Right Ascension, which is the RA of the star Mu Virginis, her right foot. To fulfill the Biblical description ‘moon below her feet’ the moon would also have to be below the sun’s Ecliptic as Virgo is parallel with this line and the sun passing almost directly over her left heel (star).
Consider this ‘coincidence’: a line passing from Draco’s mouth, through Serpens’ mouth (Satan cast down) to the tip of Hydra’s tail (the beast rising from the sea) intersects with a new moon at EXACTLY 8:00 PM October 29th, 2008 while Barack Obama is making his promises to the world; from the other end of Draco, a line beginning at the tip of his tail, passing through the feet of the bear, past the mouth of the lion through the head of Hydra (beast rising from the sea) crosses the sun’s Ecliptic at 9 hours RA 17* declination, which is EXACTLY the moment of Barack Obama’s claim of birth in Hawaii, August 4, 1961 at 7:24 PM. Draco’s head is connected to Hydra’s tail and Hydra’s head is connected Draco’s tail through EXACTLY two of the most significant dates in Barack Hussein Obama’s life!!!!! His days are written in the star’s timing EXACTLY as the Bible describes it, intertwined with Satan’s representations of the dragon (Draco), the serpent (Serpens) and the beast rising from the sea (Hydra).