From: Marilyn Agee
Re: CJ said, "2017 is fact!!!!!!"; how close did he come?
Hi:
CJ is so sure he is right. But, after so much
figuring, any one of his asumptions could be wrong. He could have the wrong
start date. He doesn't use the Hebrew Calendar. He uses estimated time instead
of Hebrew Calendar time. He doesn't check to see if the preceding year of a
Jubilee year is Sabbatic. Using his start date, one can't figure the Crucifixion
on a reasonable date. Yet, in the end, he is not right on the money, but closer
than one might suspect. He may have gotten his end date by adding 50 years
to 1967, year of the Six-Day War. 1967 + 50 = 2017, then reverse engineered the
rest. I don't know.
Let's see how they stack up. His first
one said,
> > "decree" went fourth in Spring of
445 B.C.!!!!
Daniel's 483 years -
445 + 1 (no zero year) = 39 AD. Most people would figure
that's an impossible date for the Crucifixion. I worked on it for years and
think Jesus was crucified on Thursday, Nisan 13, 3790 (Hebrew), April 6, 30
AD (Julian).
CJ figured the Crucifixion was in 32 AD.
> > We now know it was seven sevens (49 prophetic years
of 360 days each) and sixty two sevens (434 prophetic years of 360 days each)
for a total of 483 prophetic years of 360 days each, from the decree made in the
twentieth year of Artaxerxes (445BC) to the year of the cross
(32AD).
I searched for the beginning date on Google, the
first post says it was 457 BC. Let's test that for comparison.
"The Beginning of the 490 years: 457 BC"
"So we see Ezra receiving
his decree from Artaxerxes in 457 BC."
A Jubilee 50th year must follow a Sabbatic 49th year. 483
- 457 + 1 = 27 AD sure sounds more reasonable to me. 27 AD (Hebrew
3787) was the Sabbatic Year preceeding the Jubilee year, 28 AD
(3788). 3787 divides by 7 equally, so 27
AD was a Sabbatic year.
It seems obvious that near Jesus' birthday
(which I think was the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 3787), on the Day of Atonement, Tishri 10, in our 27 AD, he
stood up in the synagogue and read Isa. 61:1,2 to announce the coming Jubilee
year.
The 49th year that preceeds the Jubilee Year has to be a
Sabbatic Year, and it is the year when the coming Jubilee Year, the 50th
year, is announced on the Day of Atonement. Then the Jubilee year starts
the following Nisan 1. No Hebrew year starts on the 10th day of the 7th month.
The Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee years all start on Nisan 1. The Civil Year starts
on Tishri 1.
Re: Jesus' announcement on the
Day of Atonement in 27 AD, Luke 4:16-20 says, "And he
came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went
into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when
he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach
the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach
deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at
liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the
eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in
your ears."
That would make 3788, 28
AD, the last Jubilee Year before Jerusalem was burned in 70 AD. Adding 49
repeatedly to 27 AD, we come to 1987 then 2036, so it looks like the
Jubilee's stopped in 28 AD and restarted with the Balfour Declaration in 1917.
Adding 49-year
increments to 1917 brings us to 1966 and
2015, so the Jubilee would be 2016.
CJ's end date
looks pretty close in spite of how he seemed to have arrived at that
date.
The Jubilee Year has to be
preceded by a Sabbatic Year, and 5775 is Sabbatic. So to me, Nisan 1, 5776,
April 9, 2016, looks like the first day of the Jubilee Year.
The year 5776 starts on Tishri 1, Sept. 14, 2015, the
Feast of Trumpets that I think is the day of the Last-Trump Rapture,
the Day of the Lord and the Day of God's Wrath. To me, Sept. 14,
2015 looks like the best bet for Jesus to be given his Millennial kingdom.
On that day, he will be seated as judge at the Judgment
Seat of Christ in Heaven. That aligns with the respectful silence in Heaven
and Earth while the judge is being seated.
Rev 8:1 says, "And
when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space
of half an hour."
Hab
2:20 says, "But the LORD is in his holy temple: let all the earth keep
silence before
him."
After that Day
of God's Wrath, there will be 7 months before the Second Advent, when
Jesus can return in glory.
Eze 39:12,13 says, "And seven
months shall the house of Israel be burying of them (Gog's army, killed on the
Day of God's Wrath, the day the worldwide earthquake makes every wall fall; Eze.
38:18-20), that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the
people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day
that I shall be glorified (i.e., at the Second Advent), saith the Lord
GOD."
Adding 7 months to Tishri 1,
5776 brings us to Saturday, Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, because that year is a
Leap Year with the 13th month, Adar II. If it was not a Leap Year, there
would only be 6 months between Tishri 1 and the following Nisan 1. To me, that
seems to lock in the date. The following leap year will
be 5779.
I think Jesus, Lord of the
Sabbath, will return Saturday, Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016. It seems
to be the first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee Years. The Jubilee
would run from Nisan 1, 5776 to Nisan 1, 5777, Tue, March
28, 2017.
CJ is lucky to have come
as close as he did in spite of using estimated time (30 day months, 360-day
years) instead of actual years, etc. No Jewish
Year type has 360 days. The 6 types of years run 353, 354, 355, 383,
384 and 385 days.
> > First jubilee of prophecy - Fall 446
B.C
> > Last jubilee of prophecy - Fall of 2017 A.D.
>
> Add exactly "50" Jubilee's (2500 prophetic years) or 2464 solar years
brings you to Fall 2017, the second coming!!!
I think the Second Advent will be in the spring of 2016,
not the fall of 2017, but he seems to be close.
The Jubilee cycle is a 49-year cycle. The
50th year is also year 1 of the new cycle. This keeps the Jubilees aligned with
the Sabbatic Years. The 49th year before the Jubilee is a Sabbatic
Year.
We should use the Hebrew calender, and 5775 is a Sabbatic
year. It divides by 7 equally. Therefore, Nisan 1, 5776, Saturday, April 9,
2016, could be the beginning of the Jubilee Year and the date of the Second
Advent.
> > Daniel 9:25 gives us exact year of first
coming (Nissan 32 A.D.) and second coming (Tishri 10 2017)!!!!
I think Jesus' first coming was his birth on Tishri 1, in
5 BC, his crucifixion was Nisan 13, 3790, 30 AD. I figure his second coming will
be April 9, 2016 (Nisan 1, 5776). I see no way that it could be the Day of
Atonement. It seems to be on the first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee
years, Nisan 1, 5776.
Herod began to build the Temple in 19/20 BC.
The 46th year of construction was during the first Passover of Jesus'
ministry in the Sabbatic 3787, 27 AD. Therefore, the Crucifixion would have
been in 30 AD.
> > (Which minus 7 years = 2010 for the
rapture.)
Not bad for CJ's roughing it out. I think the Rapture will
be Cheshvan 17, 5771, October 25, 2010, when Saturn is the only morning star in
the sky. Jesus said that he was the bright and morning star, and I think his
throne is on Saturn (Eze 1:1,26-28). Cheshvan 17 is when the Lord closed the
door of Noah's Ark and it began to rain. The Rapture is as in the days of
Noah.
In Mt 24:36, Jesus said no man knew the day or
hour.
In Mt 24:44, he said, "Therefore be ye also ready: for in
such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh."
He didn't say we won't know the day. So his clue about as
in the days of Noah must have told us the day. Noah went into the Ark, and the
Lord closed the door on Cheshvan 17.
Jim Bramlett (29 July
2010)
"Daniel 9:25
--Timeline (From CJ)"
From 20-year-old CJ (Corey)
on the Rapture in the Air forum, July 28,
2010:
_______________________________________________________
Daniel
9:25...Timeline of the ages!!!
We learn of the solar calendar by
observing the sun.
We learn of the prophetic calendar by observing the
scripture.
Observing the sun - a solar year has 365.242
days.
Observing the scripture - a prophetic year has 360
days.
What the scripture teaches becomes our insight into Gods
prophetic calendar. We learn from the prophecy of the first coming of
Messiah.
The prophecy Gabriel delivered to Daniel concerning the coming
of Messiah specifies time of His first appearing.
Daniel 9:25
"Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to restore
and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be
seven 'sevens' and sixty two 'sevens.' It will be rebuilt with streets and a
trench, but in times of trouble.
After the sixty two 'sevens', the Anointed
One will be cut off and will have nothing."
Gabriel specifies seven
sevens and sixty two sevens from the decree to rebuild Jerusalem till the
cutting off of the Messiah.
seven sevens – is the scriptures way of
saying the number 49...
seven periods of seven = 7 x 7 =
49
sixty two sevens – is the scriptures way of saying the number
434...
sixty two periods of sevens = 62 x 7 = 434
We now know it
was seven sevens (49 prophetic years of 360 days each) and sixty two
sevens(434 prophetic years of 360 days each) for a total of 483 prophetic
years of 360 days each, from the decree made in the twentieth year of
Artaxerxes (445BC) to the year of the cross (32AD).
Even though this is
a measurement of 476 solar years, Gabriel calls it 483 years. It is 483 years
when the years are measured as 360 day units.
Gabriel is giving the
measurements using Gods prophetic units of measurement thereby giving us
insight into His prophetic calendar. The prophecy is fulfilled measuring the
years as 360 day units.
GODS PROPHETIC CALENDAR OPERATES ON 360 DAY
YEARS!!
JUBILEE
Jesus foreshadowed the celebration of His
redemptive work by giving Israel a special time of celebration called the year
of Jubilee.
Lev.25:10
'Consecrate the fiftieth year and
proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants.'
Lev.25:13
'In this year of Jubilee everyone is to return to his own
property.'
Jesus created the year of jubilee and the major feasts when
He created time. The mathematical expression of Jubilee is fifty years. Lev.
25 instructs the Israelites to count off seven sevens(49) years and then
proclaim the next year as the Jubilee, thereby creating a cycle of fifty
years.
Lev.25:8
Count off seven Sabbaths of yearsseven
times seven years so that the seven Sabbaths of years amount to a period
of forty-nine years. Then have the trumpet sounded everywhere on the tenth day
of the seventh month; on the Day of Atonement sound the trumpet throughout
your land.
Consecrate the fiftieth year and proclaim liberty throughout
the land to all its inhabitants.
It shall be a jubilee for you; each
one of you is to return to his family property and each to his own clan. The
fiftieth year shall be a jubilee for you; do not sow and do not reap what
grows of itself or harvest the untended vines.
For it is a jubilee and
is to be holy for you. Eat only what is taken directly from the
fields.
FIRST COMING - SEVEN SEVENS AND SIXTY TWO SEVENS
Daniel
9:25
"Know and understand this: from the issuing of the decree to
restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there
will be seven 'sevens' and sixty two 'sevens'."
Gabriel’s description
of the first coming is seven sevens (49 prophetic years) and sixty two sevens
(434 prophetic years) for a total of sixty nine sevens (483 prophetic years)
that run consecutively to fulfill the prophecy of the first coming of Messiah.
Sixty nine sevens (483 prophetic years) WITHOUT INTERRUPTION fulfills
the prophecy perfectly!
Why did Gabriel separate the sixty nine sevens
into two groups of sevens? Why did Gabriel speak seven sevens and sixty two
sevens instead of sixty nine sevens when it wasn't necessary to in regards to
the first coming?
Scripture interprets scripture!!
We know
exactly what seven sevens is from Lev 25.
It is the number of years
counted off to mark the year of Jubilee!!!
Gabriel is giving us a
reference point on Gods' prophetic calendar. He is indicating a Jubilee cycle
encoded in Daniel's prophecy!! WOW
GODS PROPHETIC CALENDAR OBSERVES THE
JUBILEE...
NEXT JUBILEE
In reference to a year of Jubilee , the
cycle of Jubilee is measured from Atonement, which is Tishri 10 on the Hebrew
calendar.
If Nisan, 445 B.C is the year of the "decree", THEN the
jubilee that the "decree" occurred in was the fall of 446 B.C on
Atonement!!
Now, Atonement in the year 446 B.C was September 27th, 446
B.C because the the astronomical new moon confirmed on Sept 17, 446 B.C, so
Atonement is just 10 days later!
Now, measured from Sept.27th, 446 B.C.
(Jubilee year begins), the next Jubilee cycle to be fulfilled on Gods'
prophetic calendar is cycle number fifty, or 2500 prophetic years because 50 *
50 is 2500 years!
Just as the prediction of the first coming was
measured in prophetic year units of 360 days each, we will observe the same
unit of measurement to measure to the next Jubilee.
Start from Sept
27th, 446 B.C., and count 2500 prophetic years forward to the get the FINAL
(50th) Jubilee of the prophecy! In order to do this we translate from Gods
prophetic calendar into mans' solar calendar, the exact same procedure
followed to recognize the first coming.
Converting into solar
years...
2500 prophetic years x 360 days = 900,000 days
900,000
days divided by 365.242 days = 2464.1196 solar years!!!
2464 - 446 =
2017!!! (allowing for no zero on count)
2017 A.D. is the year in which
the prophetic Jubilee cycle is fulfilled!!!!!!!!!
Still don't
understand??...
The placement of Daniels seventieth week is based on
Gabriel indicating a Jubilee cycle with the words “seven sevens” and Jesus
fulfilling Jubilee on His second coming!!
Gabriel specifies the first
coming , leaves a gap and then describes the final 'seven' prior to the second
coming. This is what we know as the famous Daniels seventieth seven. At this
time Messiah will come again.
Daniels prophecy covers both the first
and second coming!!!!!!
Encoded within the prophecy of Messiahs' first
coming is the key which will unlock knowledge of His second coming! That key
is "seven sevens" or Jubilee's!!!
This wording TELLS US that the 70
weeks prophecy of Daniel is in JUBILEE years hence "SEVEN SEVEN(S)" or 49
years!!!
In reference to the first coming the prophecy is accurate from
the decree to rebuild Jerusalem given in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes (
445BC)
In reference to the second coming the same prophecy is providing
a key in being accurate to the very year of a Jubilee cycle on Gods' prophetic
calendar.
In order for Jubilee to be fulfilled, the final seven will
fit together with the year of Jubilee!!!
So, the Jubilee prophecy count
BEGINS with the FIRST JUBILEE of the decree of Spring 445 B.C which is the
fall 446 B.C on Atonement AND ends 50 Jubilee's later at the END of Daniel's
Jubilee prophecy..HIS SECOND COMING!!!!
So, fall of 446 B.C (Jubilee
proclaimed) PLUS 2500 prophetic years or 50 Jubilee's (2464 solar years) bring
us to...
Fall 446 B.C PLUS 2464 solar year conversion count brings you
to...
Fall 2018, not count zero as a year...the fall of 2017, the
ending of the Jubilee count of Daniel's prophecy that began with the
proclamation of the Jubilee in the fall of 446 B.C! During this Jubilee year,
the "decree" went fourth in Spring of 445 B.C.!!!!
First jubilee of
prophecy - Fall 446 B.C
Last jubilee of prophecy - Fall of 2017
A.D.
Add exactly "50" Jubilee's (2500 prophetic years) or 2464 solar
years brings you to Fall 2017, the second coming!!!
Daniel 9:25 gives
us exact year of first coming (Nissan 32 A.D.) and second coming (Tishri 10
2017)!!!!
2017 is fact!!!!!!
(Which minus 7 years = 2010
for the rapture.)