Jay (7 Aug 2010)
"RE: Stefen: "2015 vs. 2016, 2017, 2018 and beyond...""


Re: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2010/stefenl86.htm

Stefen wrote: "The fundamental base of the 2008-15 timeframe is Daniel 9:24-27 and the 7 weeks. Christ returns 7 weeks, which is 49 Hebrew years, 17460 days, "from the command to restore and build Jerusalem". That 17460 days takes us to Feast of Atonement/Yom Kippur Sept. 23, 2015. End of story."

Hardly the end of the story. That entire statement is based on the assumption that there is some expectation for God to repeat that 7 week period, a 7 week period that was fulfilled in the OT times after the original command went out to rebuild Jerusalem.

Could that 7 weeks period be relevant again. MAYBE. But such is certainly not guaranteed or concrete, nor even reasonable to expect considering it was already fulfilled and there is just one 7-year week remaining to be fulfilled.

But at least you just admitted your entire basis for the 2015/2016 belief is that one passage, which speaks of a prophecy already fulfilled. There is no textual evidence that we should be expecting it to be fulfilled or used again, especially since having 69 weeks fulfilled and one week remaining, we are yet to have the 70th week fulfilled so there's no logical reason why would God want to have a repeat fulfillement of 7 weeks that were already accomplished long ago. 

Look, I think we all would find it nice to see something significant happen in 2015, but there's no actual evidence it would be the Second Coming. What you're positing is in no way conclusive or even evidenced in the text itself, it is simply your opinion without any real Biblical merit. Yes, you are using Biblical texts for your calculating, but your actual claim that we should expect another fulfillment of weeks 62-69 doesn't have any actual Biblical support.

And considering it conflicts with all the real evidence such as dates, chronologies, timelines, and current events, that all line up with the 2017-2018 timeframe for a Second Coming, again we're back to my original question to Ron Reese a couple days ago: Why are a couple people who think we're already in the 70th week (contrary to the Biblical evidence that shows we won't be here for it, as a number of folks have been kind enough to point out in the past couple days including the post by Kevin Heckle today), trying to push their view to the point of trying to overrule the actual evidence which shows us a 2010-2017 or 2011-2018 timeframe as the correct fit for the 70th week? Seems like such would be more damaging than helpful. Please lighten up a bit on the 2015 rhetoric.

Let us reason together.

Thank you.

Grace and peace.