Jay
(7 Aug
2010)
"RE: Stefen: "2015 vs. 2016, 2017, 2018 and beyond...""
Re: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2010/stefenl86.htm
Stefen wrote: "The fundamental base of the 2008-15 timeframe is
Daniel 9:24-27 and the 7 weeks. Christ returns 7 weeks, which is 49 Hebrew
years, 17460 days, "from the command to restore and build Jerusalem". That 17460
days takes us to Feast of Atonement/Yom Kippur Sept. 23, 2015. End of
story."
Hardly
the end of the story. That entire statement is based on the assumption
that there is some expectation for God to repeat that 7 week period, a
7 week period that was fulfilled in the OT times after the original
command went out to rebuild Jerusalem.
Could that 7 weeks period be relevant again. MAYBE. But such is
certainly not guaranteed or concrete, nor even reasonable to expect
considering it was already fulfilled and there is just one 7-year week
remaining to be fulfilled.
But at least you just admitted your entire basis for the 2015/2016
belief is that one passage, which speaks of a prophecy already
fulfilled. There is no textual evidence that we should be expecting it
to be fulfilled or used again, especially since having 69 weeks
fulfilled and one week remaining, we are yet to have the 70th week
fulfilled so there's no logical reason why would God want to have a
repeat fulfillement of 7 weeks that were already accomplished long
ago.
Look, I think we all would find it nice to see something
significant happen in 2015, but there's no actual evidence it would be
the Second Coming. What you're positing is in no way conclusive or even
evidenced in the text itself, it is simply your opinion without any
real Biblical merit. Yes, you are using Biblical texts for your
calculating, but your actual claim that we should expect another
fulfillment of weeks 62-69 doesn't have any actual Biblical support.
And considering it conflicts with all the real evidence such as
dates, chronologies, timelines, and current events, that all line up
with the 2017-2018 timeframe for a Second Coming, again we're back to
my original question to Ron Reese a couple days ago: Why are a couple
people who think we're already in the 70th week (contrary to the
Biblical evidence that shows we won't be here for it, as a number of
folks have been kind enough to point out in the past couple days
including the post by Kevin Heckle
today), trying to push their view to the point of trying to overrule
the actual evidence which shows us a 2010-2017 or 2011-2018 timeframe
as the correct fit for the 70th week? Seems like such would be more
damaging than helpful. Please lighten up a bit on the 2015 rhetoric.
Let us reason together.
Thank you.
Grace and peace.