Jay (3 Aug 2010)
"Sorry Mr. Holler, but Bruce Warner's posts seem much more consistent     with other evidence :)"

Mr. Holler wrote a post titled "Sorry Bruce Warner, Ron Reese is right"

That's a rather strong title he used, yet Mr. Holler's post itself just came down to the same 360 vs 365.25 calendar day discrepancy we've seen before.

Let's set aside that most of Mr. Reese's posts consist of his claims of "God told me" "God called me" and similar unprovable claims that do not add any real weight to what he claims.

Let's focus on the important thing:

In examining the sabbath years calculation, a calculation that is somehow two years off from everything else, and insisting that it alone is "right", one is forced to throw out all the other textual evidence, date-related, and generational calculations people have been discussing for the past few years, all of which line up with 2017.

Everything seems to line up with 2017/8-- except the "Sabbath years" calculation, which is off by two years. That's the ONLY thing that doesn't line up with the time-frame!

The reasonable mind would then suspect the one thing that doesn't line up and investigate it further to see if it is even legit, and if it is legit, then examine further to uncover where the error was made that is causing it to not line up with everything else.

On first examination, there appears little to no concrete evidence that such seven-year periods are even significant beyond the sum of 7x7=49 in order to get to the 50th Jubilee year. In other words, to place so much emphasis on a so-called "sabbath" year seems an over-emphasis at best, and most likely a result of those who presuppose us to already be in the 70th week and who are then looking for any evidence at all to support that presupposition.

To accept the questionable sabbath years calculation done by 360-day years, as your standard for when the 70th week ends, one must choose to ignore the vast evidence pointing to 2017.

If you want to convince us of the 2015 time-frame, you will need to re-examine all the evidence pointing to 2017 and show us why that should be discarded or subjected to the "sabbath weeks" 2015 calculation.

And please don't fall back on "God told me so" but actually give evidence.

Thank you, brothers!.

Grace and peace.