Erik Slapp (10 Aug 2006)
"The "day and hour" can be known"


Doves,
 
We can know the day and hour of the rapture, read below.
 
1And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
 2And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
 3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
 4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
 5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
 6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
 7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
 8All these are the beginning of sorrows.
 9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
 10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
 11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
 12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
 13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
 14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
 15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
 16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
 17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
 18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
 19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
 20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
 21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
 22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
 23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
 24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
 25Behold, I have told you before.
 26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
 27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
 28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
 29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
 32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
 33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
 34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
 35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
 36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
 37But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
 38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
 39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
 40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
 41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
 42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
 
I must write this due to the fact that I can no longer let people continue to believe that we are not to know the hour of the rapture. We all are familiar with verse 36 in which we are not to know the day or hour....right? Lets look at it a little closer if you dare.
 
One must read the prior verses to see what day and hour "cannot" be known correct? Right let take a look.
 
verse 35 says "when Heaven and Earth shall pass away" no rapture mentioned there.
verse 34 says "this generation shall not until all these things be fulfilled" no rapture there, but what things is Jesus talking about?
verse 33 when you see all these things? What things? Lets continue to look for them.
verse 32 Israel picks up more territory in 1967. Would you agree? Ok next.
verse 31 Blowing of trumpets and gathering the elect (144,000 of the 12 tribes, not us) and blowing of trumpets happen AFTER the rapture. Now we are getting to the point.
verse 30 "all the tribes of the earth mourn" (the elect spoken of in 31)
verse 29 speaks of after the Tribulation. (verse 29,30,31 show us some "things" but no rapture at all)
 
Continue to read until verse 1 and you will see that Jesus coming in the clouds has nothing to do with the rapture, but the return of our Lord at the end. Where he battles Satan.
 
I know this goes against ALL or Most teachings because we have been taught this our entire life, but please consider what I am saying and understand that what we will not know is the Day of the Lord when God comes down and finally puts an end to all war not the Rapture!! I hope this helps someone and keep an open mind don't let false teachings deceive you.
 
Erik