Donna Danna (3 Aug 2005)
"REPLY TO JUSTIN'S SHIP WRECK DREAM"


Hi Justin,
 
I know the number 40 in your dream in your 8/01 post at  http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2005/justinf81.htm  is the Biblical number for testings and trials, but I wondered if the following Bible verses about believers "ship wrecking their faith" had anything to do with your dream so I discussed it with a friend who is good at interpretting dreams.
 
Here are the Bible verses:
 
1 Timothy 1:18  ¶This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare;
19  Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:
20  Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.
 
Below is my friend's reply to me about the dream:
 
"I can recall three stories in the Scripture concerning boats/ships at sea that were in deadly storms; and in which no one ever died.....not one.
1) The saga of Jonah--this storm had to do with his disobedience.
2) The story of the Disciples being caught out on the Sea of Galilee--this storm had to do with testing.
3) The account of the Apostle Paul's ship caught in the 14 day storm--this storm had to do with Faith."
 
"Interesting that Scripture of yours (1Timothy 1:18-20) containing a portion of the letter from Paul to Timothy also speaks about Faith and shipwreck, so obviously there is a lesson to be learned from Paul's ship wreck story, which is found in Acts, Chapter 27.
Paul also mentioned in your Timothy Scripture about Faith and a "good conscience", in which he tied the two together.
Paul seems also to directly link those two terms (Faith and a good conscience), or the lack of them with blasphemy.
And if you remember, the other day I linked a conscience that has been seared with a hot iron as also having to do with blasphemy.
So I think that there is a factor involving the conscience, that has to do with blasphemy, that can even involve an undiscerning Christian."
 
"As far as Mr. Justin's dream; it's strange that everybody dies on that particular dream ship in direct opposition of the Bibles accounts of zero casualties.
So if the dream has any meaning at all, it probably goes to represent these last days version of Christianity and to where it has gotten to in spiritual terms.
That being that Christianity today is being tested and is being found to be more in disobedience than in Faith; which speaks to spiritual death more than to spiritual life. And in which blasphemy in all facets concerning the Lord Jesus, seems to be on the increase, and also seems to be more and more acceptable, among more and more Christian's; and this is exactly why most (U.S.) Christian's living today will be cast into the ship wreck known as the great tribulation to die.
And interestingly, most Christian's today also appears to be more lukewarm than ever, to the extent that they don't seem to try to understand Scripture, or to even have a basic interest in trying to understand it; and as a consequence they don't know what to think about much of anything concerning it, for good or for bad, which is giving the occasion for all kinds of heresy's being passed off as Christianity today; one such example being the blasphemous teaching now being passed around that satan can heal, which is in total opposition to the Word Scripture of the Lord God.
(The next thing you'll hear from some of these foolish people is that satan is love or something like that)
So yeah, today's spiritually lukewarm Laodicean's = U.S. Christian's (among others)--is primed to be caught up into a very mighty tribulation ship wreck.
That's at least what the Holy Ghost is speaking to me."
 
I thought that was an excellent interpretation of the dream.  Although Paul's ship wreck in Acts 27 also did come to mind when I read your dream, I certainly couldn't figure out why the believers in your dream were dying.  However, the Laodicean type Christian of today being cast into the great tribulation period to die certainly fits the dream perfectly.  He's like the foolish man whose house had no foundation (Matthew 7:26-27, Luke 6:49), and when the floods came and the winds blew, it fell down.  His faith had no foundation on the word of God, and is not based or anchored on it. He is tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine (Ephesians 4:14), and is falling away from the faith.  If he doesn't repent of his sins, he will be cast into the great tribulation period to die.
 
It is also interesting to note that the temptous wind that caused Paul's ship wreck in Acts 27:14 was called Euroclydon which means "storm from the East."  There were also Koreans in your dream who come from the East as well. 
 
I would also agree that blasphemy is a sin; and in the case of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, our Lord Jesus had the following to say:
 
Matthew 12:31  Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32  And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Mark 3:28  Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29  But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
30  Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
 
God bless you,
Donna