Michael,
for the sake of argument, let's go ahead and say that
the entire canon of New Testament scriptures was closed
when you say it was with the last word written by
Apostle John since all others wrote earlier. Wouldn't
the same rule that you used regarding the other apostles
also apply to the prophet Enoch - that is that his book
was also already written? So the canon existed and was
closed but just not in physical or geographically
locatable form yet, right? Well the Book of Enoch
already existed too or are you suggesting that the
Book of Enoch was written later after John closed the
canon and therefore is "added to the book"? If so then
how did Jude quote from it? Is Jude then to be rejected
also or what?
Do you agree with Mathman's suggestion that this
Book of Enoch was written later as a deception:
Therefore, if I wanted to be heard,
read and listened to, creating such a “lost document”
from scratch would be a great place to start for an
excellent deception. In other words, by writing a book
that is “loosely referenced” by the Bible, I would
then hope someone would be deceived into believing
that my “Book of Enoch” is the one being referenced in
the Word. The ultimate deception would be if this
person was a follower of Jesus and actually believed
it was a lost writing from the Lord.
But Jude is not "loosely referencing" some unnamed
writing but giving a very specific name to both the
author "Enoch, seventh from Adam" and as I said before,
Jude quotes it nearly verbatim for two whole verses. If
the Book of Enoch was not written by Enoch, seventh from
Adam, then Jude himself was deceived was he not? If it
was written by Enoch seventh from Adam then Jude gives
it the authority of an inspired writer of the canonized
scriptures and as you also pointed out with shouting
(huge print):
The Biblical principle
is simple. The small part stands in for the whole.
In the pre-Christian era,
Rabbis would do this all the time. It
is called a remez. R - E - M - E
- Z, remez.
So if the small part stands in for the whole, then
the part that Jude quotes should give equal weight of
authority to all of the Book of Enoch, or does such only
apply when it works in your favor?
Going back and addressing one of Patti C's questions,
she wanted to know why Jesus never talked about giants
or sons of God mating with daughters of men if it were
really true. I never answered that before so I will now.
Jesus did say that as it was in the days of Noah so it
would be when He returned suggesting that there was
something about the days of Noah that would be going on
just before He returned that did not go on throughout
the rest of history. Jesus also said to His disciples
that there was a great deal that He would have liked to
tell them but that they would not be able to bear it or
handle it at that time. Could this have been what he was
referring to maybe? Even Daniel was told that much of
what He wrote was not to be understood by him but that
the wise of the last generation would understand it.
When you put it all together it makes sense to me
that there is a great hidden truth that is to be
revealed in the last of the last days that will help us
to be prepared for what is coming. If we reject this
knowledge it may catch us off guard and prove
overwhelming at a critical time.
Personally, I believe that the Children of Israel
entering the promised land was our example and they were
afraid of real giants except for Joshua and Caleb. What
if we also must confront some kind of giants on our way
to being raptured? Will we also cower in fear or say
with Joshua and Caleb, "We are well able to go against
them for God is with us" etc?