Kevin Heckle (20 Apr 2011)
"Bruce Baber:  Well Said in the Spirit of the Lord"

Your post yesterday was well spoken, to the point and similar to mine.  I set out to write something different, but was compelled by the Lord in the same direction as you.  He's helping us along.  Compare below.
Kevin Heckle 

If you are like me, your head is spinning with all the information about the coming rapture.  Some say we are already in the seven year tribulation; some say the rapture is this week; some say next month, or even next year.  Some point to one preacher... some to another.  Some use mathematics and calendars to prove one date... and some use other computations.  Some say they have had a special confirmation of a date... and others say another date with equal certitude, conviction and revelation.  We can't all be right. 


I fear that we may be guilty of trying to rely too heavily on our own abilities, or on teachers who rely too heavily on their own.  Yet, we can perhaps agree that the rapture is near.  Maybe now is the right time for all of us to lay aside our own preconceived ideas and pray for God to give us insight.  Maybe we should all pray that God will reveal the year, month, week and day that we will be called home.


I think we need to be humble enough to admit we don't know everything for sure.  Amos 3:7 says, "Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets." I am not a prophet and I don't personally know a prophet.  But the Lord may yet reveal the time of our departure so as to wipe away the confusion... and the dissent.


Pride may prevent some brothers and sisters from this surrender.  But, I hope not.  Please join with me in surrendered will and surrendered pride.  Please ask God to reveal the truth to all of us and not just to yourself personally.  May we all look for the one true answer.  May the scales drop from our eyes.  May God bless this prayer of humility.  In Jesus' name, please let our very unity and agreement be a powerful testimony to the world.



Bruce Baber


As long as we are waiting on the Lord’s return, there will be date setters certain of the Rapture event’s timing.  I’ll admit to being skeptical of those who are sure the Rapture is going to be on a certain day.  Time after time we’ve seen those predicted days come and go while still being bound to the same old body.  Invariably, the same folks will boldly predict new dates based on some new found eclipse cycle, clock sighting or corrected math.  I wonder at the hubris of some being ever dogmatic, even when faced with the hard facts clearly dispelling their notions.   I admire the humility of others openly admitting to getting it wrong, a lesson in character for me.  There are a myriad of theories and positions: some very thoughtful (Biblically) out there; and many others that seem to be just pure necromantic hooey.   Nevertheless, we shouldn’t despise all of those prophesies IF they be harmless, however hokey and failing (1 Thess. 5:20, 1 Cor. 13:8).  From them comes this type of discourse and new knowledge.  In the very next verse (I Thess. 5:21) Paul exhorts us to PROVE ALL THINGS; hold fast to that which is good.  The failed supposition has value in that it can be eliminated or ‘let go’ so that the other possible truths can be pursued and proven.  

Even greater than the pursuit of our true date of departure is the fellowship we have in the here and now.   His Spirit is also here now among us, something we should never forget.  Quenching the Spirit is probably worse than espousing the most absurd rapture-date theory, so be careful and sure with your rebukes.  Don’t stifle another’s words as God may have inspired some part for His own reasons.  After all, NO ONE has figured out the right date yet, including your personal best guess.  If you feel God has inspired you to say something though, by all means, shout it from the rooftops!!!!

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all.


Kevin Heckle