Keith Davidson (4 Apr 2011)
"Fay (1 April 2011) Re Beast from the Sea"
Dear All Doves And to Fay,I have just read your post...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchies_in_Europeand a very enlightening article by Darren Young " Focus On Jerusalem"
The Prince of Persia
. IRAN IN BIBLE PROPHECY.The attached M S Word is copied from a privately published book called " The Leopard Kingdom" of DANIEL 7 : 6.It is an exhaustive study on South Africa's Future in Bible Prophecy, or better put the whole of Southern Africa.It is interesting to note that Israel is not alone. There many Christians worldwide that support Israel in spite of their governments are out of sync with God's omnipotent will.If you know anything about South Africa and it's political past, you may understand that 1994 this country went through a humbling experience, which changed the future until Jesus comes to remove His Family...............................................................................................................................................................................................................................Moses' Prophecy in Deut. 32 ; 21 reads:" I will provoke them to jealousy by those who are not a nation; I will move them to anger by a FOOLISH NATION" NKJV.In brief ; South Africa fills this prophecy exactly.Read the APPENDIX pages 198 -201, which briefly covers this unique LEOPARD KINGDOM plays out at the end of this dispensation of Grace; the scripture also refers to the " duality in scripture". What is given as an example in the past is shown to be either confirmed or an exhortation for the Church Of Jesus.The Leopard , which is found in huge numbers through out Southern Africa, it's skin is only worn by monarchists; that is chiefs are the only one permitted to adorn their skins.This symbol has been respected ever since there has been recorded history. It is also the symbol in the coat of arms to most Southern Africa's states.Our current government is regarded by the informed as a " Foolish and Stupid Nation" !I lived through the Apartheid era, and at the age of 70, I see the governance in the whole region is corrupt, and make stupid decisions
.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................The international media love to make a mockery when given the chance. I live here and believe me in spite of our internal policies, our government agencies that design and manufacture rocketry( Missiles) and Helicopter Gun Ships, supplies Israel ARMS and Technology. Yes ; as a nation ,we fully support Israel, and just like a Leopard , we hide from confrontation, and will only attack if like the behaviour of a Leopard, it will be sure of success.I hope this post does show that contrary current world wide situations, there are people, who constantly pray for Israel.Keith Davidson
Harmonizing the old testament and new testament prophecies referred to in this book concerning an end time foolish nation through which God will provoke Israel
It is one ot Satan's wiles to attempt to convince us that God through Scripture, contradicts Himself and is thus a liar At least, the devil would have us believe that the Scriptures are unreliable or the Apostles were ignorant men who twisted I he words of the Old Testament prophets to suit their own views and mislead people into a false religion.
Obviously, we have to resist the devil's attempts to deceive vis. A p. oversimplified interpretation of the Scriptures often gives Satan the opportunity to create the type of confusion mentioned above. This is certainly true of I'aul and Peter's references to Old Testament prophecies in the New Testament.
It can be argued that Moses and. Isaiah both spoke of a single Gentile nation thai God would use to provoke Israel to jealousy, and that a SINGLE nation would turn to God and find Him. Yet both Paul and Peter interpreted the two Old Testament' prophecies as referring to ALL the Gentile nations to whom they preached. Therefore the New Testament Scriptures CONTRADICT the Old Testament prophecies, since the New Testament applies the prophecy obviously meant for a single nation to all of the many nations of the Gentile world.
It is worth remembering that EVERY WORD of Scripture is TRUE, and one Scripture does not cancel another one or make it invalid Satan likes to oppose our use of a Scripture with another Scripture which he argues contradicts the one we happen to be using. The devil is an expert in Scripture which he uses to demoralize and defeat the saints, because he knows that the Word of God is the most powerful weapon in the universe, lie will ALWAYS try to cause doubt and undermine faith, which he succeeds in doing when Christians either do not know the Word of God, or cannot recognize a Satanic attack.
What follows is a refutation of the interpretation which allege-- that both Moses' and Isaiah's prophecies were fulfilled when the gospel went out to the tirntiles. It is necessary to refute this allegation in order to avoid the Satanic trap that will ensnare us if we agree to THIS view. IF we agree, then we will be FORCED to admit that Paul contradicted both Moses and Isaiah, and Paul is consequently a false prophet. We will then be obliged to reject ALL of Paul's writings!
In support of the interpretation that the Deut. 32:21 and the Isa. 65:1 prophecies were fulfilled at the time of the Apostles when the gospel went out to the Gentiles, the following Scriptures are usually given: Rom. 10:19,20. Rom. 11:11,14 and 1 Pet. 2:9,10.
MOSES' PROPHECY in Deut. 32:21 reads:
"I will provoke them to jealousy by those who are not a nation; I will move them to anger by a foolish nation." NKJV.
I'oints to pondei
a) The prophetpv ivlerreil lo Israel as a whole because it was given prior to the kingdom being splil between lsrai-1 and Judah.
b) The Hebrew lor "foolish" is "nabal" meaning "stupid; wicked." i') The Scripture is singular. It is ONE nation, but a "no-nation "
Paul, in Romans U):P> uses practically the same words. However, the Greek words lor "a foolish nation" are asunetos" and "ethnos" which can also be ii.uisl.iinl .is "an unintelligent rate or tribe." They are a "no" people (Greek
Paul obvioiislv in ogni/es that the propluvv (it Moses refers to a SINGLE foolish nation which will arts.- SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE and through whom ( .oil will provoke Israel to jealousy. Referring to Israel, Paul continues:
I • iv then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But ilnoiigh theii tail, lo provoke them lo jealousy, salvation has come to the (.entiles" Rom. 11:11 NKJV.
Paul (hen-lore recognizes that in order for Israel to be provoked to jealousy by the I.>oli .li i .1 niiU- nation as Moses foresaw, the gospel must FIRST go to the Gentiles (plural), MANY Gentile nations received the gospel through Paul, not ONE foolish no nation! In l.u-l, the Apostle KNEW that he was converting only SOME Gentiles from ALL tin- (.entile nations through his ministry. Paul never converted a single Gentile NATK )N as a whole to Christ and neither did any other Apostle. But Paul did reali/e lli.it il was essential for the gospel to be preached to Gentiles. He recognized that only I.nth in I lie gospel of Jesus Christ would ever save Israel. The Gentile NATION would then Ion !».• <i Christian nation and Israel would be provoked to jealousy through this ii.ilion.
What is clear from the above text is that since the gospel had to go to Gentile nations in order for Israel to be provoked to jealousy, the SPECIFIC foolish Gentile no-nation which Moses referred to, will have heard the gospel and claim to believe it.
"Inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them." Rom. 11.13,14 NKJV.
Paul knew that HIS efforts in preaching the gospel could at the most "sav< SOME (if them" when his fellow Jews saw the miracles God's Holy Spirit was working through him in his ministry to the Gentiles. The Apostle did everything he could think ol lo make some Jews of his own time so jealous that they would investigate and come to accept the gospel. In this text, it is PAUL, himself an Isiaelile, and NOT a foolish Gentile nation who is provoking Israel lo jealousy.
Yet Paul KNEW that at a FUTURE time "ALL Israel will be saved/' and that this great event would not take place:
"until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in," (Rom. 11:25,26), and the
"Deliverer will come out of Zion, and He will turn ungodliness from Jacob," Rom. 11:26.
I\ivil fort-saw that because Israel stumbled, the Gentiles received mercy so that at some future time, Israel would be shown mercy by Gentile Christians.(Rom. 11:30,31).
It is important to see this. It is NOT Gentiles per se thai will show Israel mercy, but CHRISTIAN Gentiles - Gentiles who believe the gospel. There are many Gentiles in Islam, but they will not show Israel mercy! This prophecy of Paul's in Rom. 11:31 has of course partly been fulfilled. The State of Israel unquestionably owes its existence to the huge CHRISTIAN Gentile vote at the United Nations in favour of partitioning Palestine into two States, one Palestinian and the other Jewish.
Paul lived to see Jerusalem destroyed (70 A.D.) and the Jews scattered amongst the nations, just as Jesus had prophesied would happen. Israel as a separate nation with its own country ceased to exist until l')48. Without a homeland, Jews took on the nationality of the country in which they were residing. For example, Jews in America are regarded as Americans, not as Israelis. Similarly with Jews in other countries.
We are approaching the end time of the Gentiles. Therefore the Old and New Testament prophecies referring to the return of Israel to her country of origin, had to be fulfilled. Only NOW that Israel is once again a recognizable nation with its OWN territory, does it become possible for a foolish CHRISTIAN Gentile no-people nation to be raised up by God to provoke Israel to jealousy!
"I. was sought by those who did not ask for Me; I was found by those who did not seek Me. I said, "Here 1 am, here 1 am," to a nation that was not called by My name." Isa. 65:1 NKJV.
Compare this with Rom. 10:20
"But Isaiah is very bold and says: "I was found by those who did not seek Me; I was made manifest to those who did not ask for Me."
Paul did not quote the full prophecy of Isaiah. Neither was this necessary. "Rabbi" Paul knew perfectly well that this prophecy also referred to a SINGLE nation, which was why he linked it to Moses' propliecy of Deut. 32:21. This fact shows that Paul believed that the foolish Gentile nation spoken of by Moses was the SAME Gentile nation Isaiah was referring to in his prophecy.
Thus we conclude that Paul knew that the prophecies of Moses and Isaiah would be fulfilled by a single Christian nation towards the end of the times of the Genliles.
The argument that Peter's text in 1 Pet. 2:9,10 fulfills Deut. 32:21 and Isa. 65:1 is unsound. These texts read:
"Hul you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; who once were not ,1 people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy luil now have obtained mercy."
A comparison of the above text with Hos. 1:10 and Hos. 2:23 shows that Peter had Spirilnal Israel in mind. His ministry was mainly to Jews as Paul's was to Gentiles. The opening lev! nl his letter makes it clear that he was writing to Christian Jews although Qii-isti.ni Grnliles are included. (See 1 Pet. 4:3,4).
"I'riiM, ail apostle of Jesus Christ, To the pilgrims of the Dispersion in
Ponliis, Gal.itia ..." I Pet. 1:1 NKJV.
It was nol the ( ,rnlil<>s who were in Dispersion, but the Jews. Peter is therefore not contradicting I Icse.i .it all, since Hosca's Old Testament prophecies definitely applied to ISKAM,, ami not to n Gentile nation at all, as is the case with Deut. 32:21 and Isa. 0- I
Paul .il'.ii itu hides the Christian Gentiles in the above two prophecies of I iomm as we scr in komi, 'i .'4-26.
" ,,, us whom I le called, not of Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? As
I le r.avs also in llosea: "I will call them My people, who were not My
people, anil her beloved, who was not beloved."
"Ami il shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them, "You
,nv not my people," there they will be called sons of the living God."
Paul (hen continues his lengthy argument about Israel's rejection of the gospel, and Israel's ultimate salvation at the end of the time of the Gentiles. Consequently, Peter's lexis do mil contradict Deut. 32:21 or Isa. 65:1 because they refer to Hosea's writings with which ilu-y are in harmony.
The reference in I Pet. 2 :10 to a people who had not obtained mercy but had now obtained mercy likewise does not refer to Deut 32:21 or Isa. 65:1, but is in harmony with l\od 33:19 and Hos. 2:23. In this prophecy, Hosea predicts <i time when Israel will know die LORD and be reconciled to Him after having been rejected by God.
"Then I will sow her for Myself in the earth, and I will have mercy on iut who had nol obtained mercy; then I will say to those who were not My people, "You are My people!" And they shall say, "You are my God!" Hos. 2:23 NKJV.
At the time when the Lord saves the nation of Israel, obviously the lews of Apostolic times as well as the Gentile Christians are included with Israel in being God's people.