Barry Amundsen (21 Apr 2011)
"Donald Price Book of Life vs. Lamb's Book of Life"
Hi Donald Price,
from your post:
(We are inclined to believe
that only the belivers who have lived since the cross have their names written in this book.)
The major difference between the two books is that the Book of Life seems to contain the
names of all living people, whereas the Lambs Book of Life includes only the names of those
who have called upon the Lamb for salvation.
10. And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I
bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
I do believe that there are certain levels of rewards in Heaven but I
don't know that I believe in separate categories merely by being saved
during Old Testament time and New Testament time.
I have heard this idea that only those alive at the time and after the
cross can be in the special group of N.T. believers and that those
before are just some other class. Just for the sake of discussion, I
believe that there is no distinction by when one is born but that Adam
and Eve got saved and just as saved as we do through the promise of a
savior. God having to shed the innocent blood of animals to cover them
but we have the sacrifice of Jesus and no longer need the animals but
otherwise there is no difference and we all will be in the same book of
life or of the Lamb. I could be wrong because there is the mystery of
the church and all but maybe they are even included in the church in
some way because God is outside of time. Although I believe that after
the rapture there will be a different group from that point on maybe. I
don't know, it does get tricky...
I have heard Chuck Missler and others use that scripture where Jesus
says John the Baptist is the greatest of men born of women yet he who
is least in the kingdom is greater than he... to suggest that there is
a difference between those saved of the Old Testament and those of the
New. But I don't think that was really Jesus point at all. Rather that
Jesus was saying that judging purely by man's efforts (of men born of
women not from above) apart from God's salvation by which we all must
be saved, the highest report card was John's but Jesus goes on as if to
say, So what! That alone is not enough to get him into the kingdom so
therefore if he were to rely on his report card the least saint in the
kingdom would still be in higher standing than John would be if he
didn't get in through Jesus. It's like another way of saying except
your righteousness exceed that of the Scribes and Pharisees... Except
your righteousness exceed that of John the Baptist, who has the highest
report card of all of you, judging by just human abilities, you still
won't make it, was His point. To suggest that Jesus was trying to show
that there was some mystical separation between how Old Testament
saints get saved vs. New Testament or their category is different than
New Testament saints, is I think to miss the whole point. The subject
that Jesus was on was how your own righteousness is not enough not
about there being different categories between Old Testament believers
and New Testament believers. Because Jesus was saying that John was a
very special man and not some wimp. But even so, he still needs Jesus
to be saved.
Furthermore, we are all called sons of Abraham for our faith because he
got saved the same way we do by his faith in what God had promised him.
Right? Why should he end up in a different category then? Even the
"heroes of faith" Hebrews 11, chapter mentions all the Old Testament
saints and their faith that saved them as our examples of how to be
saved likewise and not as though we are somehow in a different category
now that Jesus has died and rose. I guess we'll all find out soon
enough anyway. I can hardly wait till all these kinds of questions are
finally answered once and for all!