What if the Rapture happened around June 21st of 2008, if you count 31/2 years from that date, you get December 21st 2012?  What if the Mayans and others foresaw, was the middle of the Tribulation which is going to be so devastating, that people from back then would think the world was ending.  That is why their description of the events on December 21st 2012 are so horrible.  This is just a thought.......   Makes you wonder could it be possible that the Rapture could happen around the Month of June of 2008???  I don't believe that the Rapture will happen on a Jewish Holiday, that would be to predictable.  God says when everyone is living life as normal, and no one expects the Rapture to happen.  WHAM  WERE GONE.  YSIC  Jen