http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2007/janm420-3.htmfrom Danmark 22.o4.o7
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It now most be clear as crystal, that it is not only in the evil atmosphere, there are birth-pain. The evil make it all by them-self with there evil transactions.
But the birth-pain in christianity, I think have to do with the woman in rev 12. - I believe in that she is the whole church, and the male-child is the "body" of Jesus, who she are close to give birth to. it will be a true "born again"
And this is the first caugth away, the seperation. - The church itself, who never understood what happen, are those left behind, who flie to the desert, the wildernes, perhaps "hide among the world" for a while, and the evil then turn against the jewish people.
I know that someone will not agree, - and I will not argue,- look in the scripture, or ask the Lord, - if you feel Im wrong, then feel free to pray for me, but I dont think I am.
Because remember Jesus word: Fear not, litle flock; for it is your Fathers good pleasure to give you the Kingdom ! - Luke 12: 32.v. - and when this happen,- a Nation shall be born in a day ! - also read in Luke 18: 6-8.v. - and be aware that Jesus says:
- litle flock, - as He told of the few in Philadelphia church, and in other situattions !
In fact Jesus is it all, - He have Davids Key, He is the Lion of Judah, - He is the real and all Israel.
But Jesus is also the Crowned King of the Kingdom of God, who is another thing, - yuo can read about it in the book of Daniel 7: 13-14.v. and 27.v. - and there His people, His chosen ones, is given authority to rule with Jesus, - given of God the Allmeigthy.
The 1000 year Kingdom for Israel, is different from the Kingdom of God, and it will follow after the 1000 year for Israel !
Revelation 2: 18-29.v.
2:18 "To the angel of the assembly in Thyatira write: "The Son of God, who has his eyes like a flame of fire, and his feet are like burnished brass, says these things:
2:19 "I know your works, your love, faith, service, patient endurance, and that your last works are more than the first.
2:20 But I have this against you, that you tolerate your{TR, NU read "that" instead of "your"} woman, Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. She teaches and seduces my servants to commit sexual immorality, and to eat things sacrificed to idols.
2:21 I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her sexual immorality.
2:22 Behold, I will throw her into a bed, and those who commit adultery with her into great oppression, unless they repent of her works.
2:23 I will kill her children with Death, and all the assemblies will know that I am he who searches the minds and hearts. I will give to each one of you according to your deeds.
2:24 But to you I say, to the rest who are in Thyatira, as many as don't have this teaching, who don't know what some call 'the deep things of Satan,' to you I say, I am not putting any other burden on you.2:25 Nevertheless, hold that which you have firmly until I come.
2:26 He who overcomes, and he who keeps my works to the end, to him I will give authority over the nations.
2:27 He will rule them with a rod of iron, shattering them like clay pots;{Psalm 2:9} as I also have received of my Father:
2:28 and I will give him the morning star.
2:29 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the assemblies. "
Love, Peace and joy to all of you, in the name of our Lord, King and God - Jesus Christ - jan mikael ><>