Andrew Jarosh
(24
Apr 2005)
"RE: Greenspan's "Stagnation"
Warning"
I'd love for
people to be a bit more cautious when they discuss, or in cases on here
that I've seen, rant and rave about impending economic doom.
I myself am a finance
and economics guy. I studied this stuff in college, got my degree
in it, worked in banking, the dot.com industry, I'm working on my master
in the subject and I run my own business. I've followed the "warnings"
issued by Greenspan for years now. He was absolutely correct when
he spoke of "youthful exuberance" in the dot.com craze that over inflated
the prices of dot.com stocks. He was also very wrong when during
that time, he succumbed to political pressure to keep interest rates artificially
low to provide the appearance of a vibrant economy. Low and behold,
a few years later, the bubble burst, followed shortly by 911, corporate
scandals, war, and well, you get the idea.
I respect Greenspan
tremendously, but most economists agree that Greenspan is an "old school"
kind of guy. Hard not to be when you're as old as he is. He
has seen it all. But the thing that he gets criticized most for is
his either inability, or unwillingness to embrace the "new" economy.
He doesn't believe that internet businesses are "real" businesses... in
any sense of the word. He doesn't believe that self-employed and
sole proprietors are "real" income earners. He believes that unless
you work for a large, established corporation earning a steady paycheck
from which taxes can be withheld, you don't really exist as a "worker."
He also believes that
the best way for a government to manipulate it's nation's economy is through
taxes and the control of the money supply through the buying and selling
of federal bonds (known as Keynesian Economics... made popular in the 1950's).
So when he says that the deficit is scary, what he's really saying is that
the only way he sees to combat the deficit is to raise taxes and sell more
gov't bonds. He believes that the bonds that will be sold in the
future will be at a higher interest rate than the ones now... so when they
come due, you'll either have to raise taxes or issue more bonds for even
higher interest rates to pay off the currently due bonds. It's a
circle and one that is not easily broken. But neither is it as bad
as it sounds.
Number one, we got
a nice break in the 90's and 00's with low interest rates. This allowed
us to issue bonds for lower interest rates than the ones we had to pay
off left over from the 80's. This bought us some time. Number
two, the deficit as a percentage of GDP is currently at one of the lowest
levels it's been since the dawn of deficit spending. Every financial
planner will tell you that the way you measure debt isn't in raw numbers,
but as a percentage of your income and net worth. If I'm a million
dollars in debt, that sounds horrible. But if I'm Donald Trump and
I make a hundred million dollars a year, that debt isn't so bad.
Conversely, if I'm $50,000 in debt, and I only make $25,000 a year, my
debt to income ratio is horrible. So when you talk about debt, you
HAVE to look at it in terms of your income and net worth... i.e. GDP.
I could go off on
this topic forever, and I'd be glad to for anyone who wants to, but the
final point I'll make here is about our current deficit.
In the 1990s, we had
an economic revolution that was comparable to the Industrial Revolution
of the late 19th century. A new invention that made its way to the
masses (hint hint... you're using it right now)... paved the way for thousands
of new companies and tens of thousands of new ideas. A New Economy
was created due to the Internet. A new way of doing business.
A more informed consumer. A quicker spreading of knowledge and information.
These new ideas were given billions of dollars of investment money from
the venture capital firms. Those billions of dollars given to the
dot.com ideas were spent on office space, office furniture, computers,
advertising, and over payed new college grad employees who in turned bought
houses, cars, clothes, etc... In short, the economy of the 1990's
was built on Venture Capital money... it was fake. And Greenspan
knew it.
But all that spending
and all that income being made did create a huge spike in tax revenue to
the gov't. Thus, in the late 1990's we had a surplus.
NOTE: The surplus
has NOTHING to do with gov't policy, budget regulations, "good" government,
or anything coming out Washington, DC. The Internet would have been
invented without Al Gore, the venture capital money would have been spent
and a budget surplus would have been created no matter who was in the office
at the time.
However, when that
surplus did occur, there was a huge debate in Washington about what to
do with the surplus. One group said, "save it." Another group
said, "a surplus, by definition, means we overtaxed people... so cut taxes."
And still another group said, "Great! Let's spend it!".
The "Spend It" crowd
won. (surprise, surprise)
So we have a spike
in tax revenue, and the congress chooses to lock us into long-term spending
on a bunch of programs that do nothing to maintain the economy. When
the dot.com bubble burst and the spike in tax revenue ended, we still had
long-term spending on the books... Now add in 911, two wars, corporate
scandals and you have a DEFICIT.
So the "Deficit Correcting"
measures that Greenspan is talking about is not TAXES... but SPENDING.
We have to reduce gov't spending, or at the very least, keep spending where
it is and don't let it grow until the laws of supply and demand catch up.
The 4% growth cap on discretional spending that the last budget included
is a HUGE step in that direction. Low unemployment and lower taxes
is another great factor in keeping demand growing. And I support
cutting foreign aid to countries that hate us, cutting spending on gov't
handout programs that don't produce any results, and stopping the pork
barrel spending that continues to flow from DC.
We are on our way.
We'll get there... the natural way. But if you do anything to stifle
demand, such as raise taxes (doesn't matter on who... raising taxes has
the same effect no matter who the hikes are on), you will absolutely increase
the chances of falling demand without a corresponding fall in prices (the
definition of Stagnation.)
Sorry for the essay...
but I love this stuff and I can't stand it when disinformation is spread.
- Andrew