Sam Orlando (19 Apr 2004)
"Mrs Agee's 5-23-2004 rapture date:"
From: SamTo: John and Dove's.From: Marilyn AgeeI would like to comment on Mrs. Agee's choice for a possible rapture date on 5-23-2004. First of all the first thing I noticed and I'm sure I wasn't the only one is the numbers in that date.
Notice the "234" as in Vincent Tan's angel encounter....
Re: May 23, 2004, date for Rapture
Hi:
> > I would like to comment on Mrs. Agee's choice for a possible rapture date on 5-23-2004. First of all the first thing I noticed and I'm sure I wasn't the only one is the numbers in that date.> > Notice the "234" as in Vincent Tan's angel encounter. Immediately I saw the "5" as being grace and then 234 when you drop the zero's. Notice in the story he could not put "one" more drop of gas into the full tank. Maybe May 23, 2004 is the FULLness of the times of the gentiles and not one day (drop) more! By His Grace (5) we will be raptured and escape the coming judgement.
> > Since those who are alive on 5-23-2004 will not proceed those who are dead in Christ, maybe they will rise on 5-16-2004 which is Ascencion Day. This would be our "7 day" Warning...5-23... would be "7" days later.
Thanks. I hadn't remembered the $2.34 or the 7-day warning Noah got yet.
Ascension Day being 7 days before May 23 is perfect. The countdown of the omer as the Jews today count it (1st day, Nisan 16) fits.
1st day, Nisan 16, Resurrection Day, Wed, 4-7-4
40th day, Iyar 25, Ascension Day, Sun, 5-16-4, warning day?
47th day, Sivan 3, first trump, Sun, 5-23-4, Rapture?
50th day, Sivan 6, Pentecost, Wed, 5-26-4
I Thess. 4:14 says, "if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus (the dead in Christ) will God bring with him." When GOD (YHWH Yahshua/Jesus Christ) comes down from Heaven, the saints that are now in Heaven will come down WITH HIM.
Ex. 19:10-13 says, "THE THIRD DAY (Sivan 3) THE LORD WILL COME DOWN....WHEN THE TRUMPET SOUNDETH LONG (Sivan 3), THEY SHALL COME UP."
Mt. Sinai represents Heaven. In Ex. 20:22, YHWH said, "Ye have seen that I have talked with you FROM HEAVEN."
Ex. 19:16-20 says, "And it came to pass on the third day (Sivan 3) in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and THE VOICE OF THE TRUMPET EXCEEDING LOUD; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled. And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with God ; and they stood at the nether part of the mount. And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly. And WHEN THE VOICE OF THE TRUMPET SOUNDED LONG, AND WAXED LOUDER AND LOUDER, Moses spake, and God answered him by A VOICE. And THE LORD CAME DOWN upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: AND THE LORD CALLED MOSES UP to the top of the mount; and MOSES WENT UP."
Moses means saved out of the water. Both he and Noah were saved out of the water. Both could be types of the Rapture. In Mt. 24:37, Jesus said, "But as the days of Noe (Noah) were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." I think Sivan 3 (5-23-4) has a good chance to be the day of the Rapture. Since Noah was warned 7 days beforehand, the 7-day warning you suggest sounds reasonable too.
If I remember right, Vincent Tan said that the angel left two one-dollar bills, three dimes, and 4 pennies under the cushion on the car seat. There would be other ways of making up $2.34, but this was the best way to impress on us the 2, 3, and 4. It sounds good.
Think how the Sinai account resembles the Rapture accounts. I Thess. 4:16,17 says "the Lord himself (YHWH Yahshua, Jesus) shall descend (come down) from heaven with A SHOUT, with the VOICE of the archangel, and WITH THE TRUMP OF GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
Rev. 4:1,5 says, "I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the FIRST VOICE which I heard was AS IT WERE OF A TRUMPET TALKING with me; which SAID, COME UP HITHER.... And out of the throne proceeded LIGHTNINGS and THUNDERINGS and VOICES."
Ex. 19:16-20 says, "IT CAME TO PASS ON THE THIRD DAY (Sivan 3) in the morning, that there were THUNDERS and LIGHTNINGS, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and THE VOICE OF THE TRUMPET (first trump of the Bible) EXCEEDING LOUD; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled. And MOSES BROUGHT FORTH THE PEOPLE OUT OF THE CAMP TO MEET WITH GOD....And when the VOICE OF THE TRUMPET sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by A VOICE. And THE LORD CAME DOWN upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and THE LORD CALLED MOSES UP to the top of the mount; AND MOSES WENT UP."
> > I would think it would take at least "3" days for the 144,000 to think about what just happened when the rapture occurs before they all agree and believe that Jesus is Messiah.What if Pentecost is as the first Pentecost and tongues of fire come down from Heaven.At that point they will be sealed.
I think the 144,000 will be sealed (marked) just before they are caught up in the Rapture of the Tribulation saints. Eze. 9:4,5 says, "the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and SET A MARK UPON THE FOREHEADS of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. And to the others he said in mine hearing, GO YE AFTER HIM THROUGH THE CITY, AND SMITE."
> > > And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them TO DAY (Sivan 1) and TO MORROW (Sivan 2), and let them wash their clothes (i.e., confess their sins, I John 1:9), And BE READY against the THIRD DAY (Sivan 3, Sunday, May 23, in 2004): FOR THE THIRD DAY THE LORD WILL COME DOWN in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai....AND MOSES WENT UP UNTO GOD."
> > According to this we will have up to and including the day before the rapture to repent and confess our sins. However, my suggestion is that no one watching should wait that late in time. We could die tomorrow, maybe saved but not part of the bride group.
No one, even Christians, should wait to get right with God. Use I John 1:9. Be found wearing white garments. The Bride wears white. Think of the foolish Laodicean virgins in Mt. 25. Because their lamps were lit, they thought they had it made. What they didn't realize was that they needed more oil of the Holy Spirit in their vessels (bodies).
Why? what difference does that make? It makes the difference between going through the "open door" set before the Philadelphians or being left behind like the Laodiceans. They are spewed out of the Body of Christ at the 1st Rapture (Rev. 3:16) and are caught up with the Tribulation saints in the 2nd Rapture.
Maybe Moses will come on Sivan 1 to warn people that they only have two more days to get right with God before the Rapture, but maybe not. It isn't safe to wait. When the "marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready", she "should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness (lit., righteousnesses) of saints" (Rev. 19:7,8). That includes both Christ's righteousness imputed to us and our righteous acts.
When we accept Christ, our old sins are washed away. We get a fresh start. After that, when we sin, we should confess it to God and bring it under the blood of Christ. I think that's what Jesus meant when he told Peter if he (Jesus) didn't wash his (Peter's) feet, he (Peter) had no part with him (Jesus). We need to be clean, every whit. John 13:10 says, "Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit". Think of their sandals and dirt roads. We do need to allow the Lord to wash our feet.
> > Notice that 10-days from 5-16-04, Ascencion day till 5-26-04 is 10 days non-inclusive.The scripture "and they shall have tribualtion 10-days" might fit in here. Imagine graves opened and bodies missing. Imagine the bones in the James Osuary being missing
The bones are already missing from the James Ossuary, but that won't matter.
It seems to me that the 10 days (hemera, a period, day, time, while, year) of Rev. 2:10 would have to precede the Rapture by 10 time periods. How about 5754 to 5764? The Oslo Accords were ratified in Israel on Tishri 1, 5754 (Sept. 16, 1993). May 23, 2004 is Sivan 3, 5764. I sure appreciate your thoughts. They make me zero in on these details. Sivan 3, 5764 is looking better all the time.
> > > And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them TO DAY (Sivan 1) and TO MORROW (Sivan 2), and let them wash their clothes (i.e., confess their sins, I John 1:9), And BE READY against the THIRD DAY (Sivan 3, Sunday, May 23, in 2004): FOR THE THIRD DAY THE LORD WILL COME DOWN in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai....AND MOSES WENT UP UNTO GOD."> > According to this we will have up to and including the day before the rapture to repent and confess our sins. However, my suggestion is that no one watching should wait that late in time.
I think you're right, but as you indicated, why wait? Now is best. Use I John 1:9.
Agape, Marilyn
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